Obviously you know nothing about Edc. We have a very valuable product called Promo Black Box ,that's exclusive only to Edc members.

Sorry all, please bare with me as I become the insufferable know-it-all once more. I don't mean it to be rude at all, only to clear up any confusion.

Actually bbolden, PromoBlackBox isn't exclusive only to EDC members. It really doesn't focus on EDC members at all. It's a product that is made for businesses. It's composed of state-of-the-art marketing technology and tools and expert training designed to help drive tremendous traffic to a client's website, and to help convert that traffic into sales.

EDC distributors do get this product free, and do have the opportunity to sell it as well. It is exclusive in that EDC members are the only folks that this product can be purchased from, but it wasn't meant only for EDC members to use. I don't want others to get the wrong idea about what we're offering.

-PA27

To Mr D Dubbs

I have been trying for two weeks to get someone to just do one thing at your Dubbs Marketing site: and that is to cancel my subscription. I have already paid for EDC Gold and I will leave it at that. But there is no button on your site that I can find to unsubscribe nor is there an contact reply on your email reciept. When I called Craig to inquire about this; he called me "Stupid" because it was after 8:00 PM.
Would you like to post that I am stupid as well for trying to reply to your post, because I don't want your product anymore. I will make no statement about the EDC Opp. But My feelings about the Top guy at EDC are not good. You see you are prolly right that most don't work that hard at it. But make no mistake, about this one point. I am upset with his treatment of me concerning unsubscribing to your web-site, and I will work very very hard at getting that msg out if you can not resolve this issue. I would appreciate your attention in this matter

Thanks

To Mr D Dubbs

I have been trying for two weeks to get someone to just do one thing at your Dubbs Marketing site: and that is to cancel my subscription. I have already paid for EDC Gold and I will leave it at that. But there is no button on your site that I can find to unsubscribe nor is there an contact reply on your email reciept. When I called Craig to inquire about this; he called me "Stupid" because it was after 8:00 PM.
Would you like to post that I am stupid as well for trying to reply to your post, because I don't want your product anymore. I will make no statement about the EDC Opp. But My feelings about the Top guy at EDC are not good. You see you are prolly right that most don't work that hard at it. But make no mistake about this one point. I am upset with Craig's treatment of me concerning unsubscribing to your web-site, and I will work very very hard at getting that msg out if you can not resolve this issue. I would appreciate your attention in this matter

Thanks

Here is what I think about edcgold. I personally think it is a scheme and ruins friendships. This company is fraud. It promises big hypes and delivers nothing. The e-books do not go on sale on ebay for what they say the resell rights should be.

I had to call 3times to cancel my edcgold membership.
This company has destroyed a friendship I had with my friend. He introduced me to edcgold and he hyped it up so much and promised he would help me get my money back after the 3sales. He said it is very easy and I fell for it. Now 2months later, neither has he made a sale and neither have I. I even bought edcgoldleads and lots of them were fake people! I finally realised that my friendship with this person was put on the line just for money and money neither of us are making! Now I'm 1000+down the drain and he is as well..and we're not friends like we use to be. Now he had to go get a job and basically EDCGOLD is a scheme. It says no refunds? It is a scheme because like quixtar they give you a 30day trial to get a refund..all companies have a refund...but not edcgold!!!!!!! This company has ruined my financial situation and my friendship that is not worth money. I personally contacted Peter Moore and he was an asshole and said "FORGET HIM...You work the program on your own!! Forget the loser!!" How rude is Peter to say forget a meaningful friendship for money. the edcgold leaders are all fake cold heartless people! I am now in total distress because what this company has done to my personal and financial life. WORD OF ADVICE!!!!!! STAY AWAY FROM EDCGOLD

Ok, I'm going to break this one down, because I'm seeing some things that don't make a lot of sense to me.

First of all, I've explained about EDC's no refund policy in this thread already. There is no refund because the products are in a downloadable format. It's impossible fore EDC to get all of their products back from anyone (as they'd have to go to each individual house and erase the products one by one from each person's hard drive). Many other companies sell tangible product that can be returned to them, and they provide their refund once they've received their product back. Since EDC cannot do that, they do not offer a refund. Not to mention, it is something that is plainly spelled out in the terms. Those that don't agree with such terms aren't forced to sign up. Simple as that.

Next off, you can't blame a company for ruining your friendship. Everyone has choices. Your friend chose to act in the way that he did, stating that this business was easy and didn't take a lot of .work It was also his choice to promise that he'd help you make your money back. And you chose to believe him. That isn't EDC's fault. I've said over and over, in this forum and others, that it's so important to choose a sponsor that has a plan set in place to help you. You should have done research on whether your friend was earning before believing everything he said. And he shouldn't have lied to you saying that this business is so easy when he wasn't earning himself.

I'd love to know exactly what either of you tried to do to work your businesses. Did you even take the time to market? Did you attend any of the company training to get some helpful advice? Did you place any ads at all? Or did you just sit and expect folks to visit your site, become instantly interested and join with you? As for the the leads, it's also your choice to purchase those, no one forces you. It's not required to be a member. Most good sponsors will tell you that leads and such things don't often work. If you'd bothered to do any research before joining, you'd have probably picked that up.

And who on earth is Peter Moore (never heard of him). And no matter how rude he seemed, you can't expect someone else to understand the depth of your friendship except you guys. And in my opinion, your "friend" doesn't seem like he's been a very good friend. Otherwise, he wouldn't have lied to you about a business he wasn't doing well with, just to get a thousand bucks out of you (that probably didn't even go to him).

I'm sorry if I seem harsh, but people, you've got to look at the whole situation. Everyone is so quick to blame their issues on a business opportunity without even stopping to think about what they could have done to cause or help along the problems that exist. Understand that both you and your friend chose to do the things you've done. No one forced either of you. He chose to hype things up and lead you on, and you chose to follow blindly and join at the absolute highest level (when there are 2 other memberships that are more affordable you could have chosen). You let the promise of big money blind you and dull your senses, as did your friend. You cannot blame EDC for that.

I have said, and will keep saying, that EDC is a great opportunity for those who are willing to put forth the effort and treat it like a business instead of trying to make it a get-rich-quick thing. That starts at the very beginning with doing your research. Every opportunity isn't for everyone. If you do become interested in EDC, do just as much research on the sponsor you're joining with as on the program itself. Often times the leadership given (or lack thereof) can make or break a person. Next, if you're the kind of person who only joined because of the easy factor, then business in general is not for you. No business is easy money, I don't care what any ads or anyone else says. EDC is definitely easier than some things you could be doing, like working a 9 to 5 job, but it still takes time and effort on your part.

And last but not least, you should never allow anything to ruin your financial situation. For example, I had the $997 to spare when I joined, but I joined at the $297 level. Why? Because I knew that I might need extra funds for advertising and such, so to me it was better to save the other $700 for things I might need down the road. And it worked out just fine! I'm now seeing success with EDC, and welcoming new team members every few days. And they seem happy with the training and tools they're receiving from me. They are not bitter about joining. And no, I did not promise them the world before they joined. I encouraged them to be as realistic with their goals as possible, and I let them know that they wouldn't become millionaires overnight. They seem to understand what it takes to make this business work, and we're all working toward our goals together. It seems that people tend to cut their common sense off when it comes to business. A good rule of thumb: you never invest more than you can afford to lose. If you couldn't afford to part with $1000 at that time, then you never should have chosen to invest that much. And you should never, ever follow someone blindly. You must always know what's involved, what's expected of you, and what the risks and consequences are. And if you were skeptical of his success, you should have looked at his situation more closely (after all, you were good friends right?). Was his lifestyle changing? Was he able to quit his job and work from home? Was struggling with financial issues or doing great? If you were such good friends, you'd have noticed some of this. And if nothing else, you should have done research on his sponsor and how well he was (or wasn't) doing.

As far as canceling, you need to contact Wendy Krosky in billing. She will need the first 4 digits and last 4 digits of the credit card you use to pay your administrative fee. Once you've given her that, she will cancel your account for you. That information, by the way, is not hidden. It is located on the first page in your back office. You can find both her email address and phone number there. Beware that she only works Monday through Friday, so you'd better contact her today.

Moral of the story? Use your common sense when dealing with anything business. And realize that you, and only YOU, are responsible for the choices you make. I am sorry that so much bad has happened to you and the person that brought you in. But realize again, that no one forced you, and that there was help to be found if you really looked for it. There are a ton of us out here offering help and offering to answer questions every day. If you take nothing else from this, remember one thing: you are an adult, and you alone are responsible for the decisions you make. No one else....


-PA27

lancelot, you will have to contact Wendy Krosky in billing to cancel your Dubbs site subscription. She will need the first 4 digits and last 4 digits of the credit card you use to pay for your Dubbs subscription. Her contact info can be found on the home page in your EDC back office. She only works Mon. - Fri., so you might want to contact her as early as possible today.

-PA27

Thank you for your help I was able to get the dubbs site subcrition canceled today.

Thanks everyone for your imput.

I do agree that we all make our own choices, and I have not put that much effort into EDC thus far. So I will reserve judgment at this time.

As for Craig, He called me "Stupid" for calling at 8:00 at night. For the record, There was absolutly no call for his attitude. I should point out that I only introduced my self as a member of EDC when he went into his tyraid. So, just know that he is one of the men that the web site says you can call directly. I would not count on him to close a deal for you.

P.S. Craig, Since you hung up on me Brother,

You answered the phone at 8:00pm. If you are bothered by 8 o'clock phone calls, it seems a little "stupid" to answer.

Hi LightHammer I am very interested.If you can ,send me a private message with the details.

Very interesting evolution of the discussion here.

My story is similar to "earnmore"s. I made a decision to learn online commerce, marketing, and advertising, in the fall of last year.

When I found EDC Gold, I realized I would have saved a few THOUSAND dollars on my education. And, for the record, there are over 1000 products in the back office, and not just a "bunch of e-books".

I think more than half of it, is software, and there is a whole slew of scripts back there (php, etc..). Me, I'm not a coder...... yet. Although I have learned more in the 6 weeks since I've joined, than in the 7 months previous to finding EDC.

I will also admit, I quickly sorted "the wheat from the chaf" in the online marketing world, and zeroed in on a handful of folks who under promised and over delivered. So when I found EDC, it really was at the right time, since I had learned a lot about how things work on the internet, just prior.

I would like to respond to lancelot's post, but, not being privy to the conversation, I can not. That doesn't much sound like the Craig Garcia I know. I suspect if he said what you attribute to him, you have gone light on the details here, as to your tenor.

That's not a shot at you lance, I'm just a little skeptical. Primarily, because the issue you were having trouble with, the cancelation of dubbs site, was just a matter of contacting the woman who's name is blatently obvious, if you ever logged into the back office.

I am glad you got it handled though. If you have a desire or a need to make money, have fun, and help others better themselves, I hope you'll give EDC a determined look, since it sounds like you have already plunked your money down

I just started doing some test marketing of my EDC business, and put out some ads 15 days ago. I'm busy with my other longterm business, and it's the rush season, so I've been busy with that.

5 days ago, out of the clear blue, a guy signed up under me, and his story is almost exactly like mine. Going online ..... has learned a ton over the last couple of years, happened on EDC, told me it was a no brainer. From a free ad I posted 10 days earlier!

Despite a little rancor along the way, I appreciate the respectful tone of this thread, or at least the willingness to embrace the age old "debate with civil decorum" which has expressed itself here.

PA27's comments on the "pyramid scheme" those who are the "worker bees" find themselves in, was very fascinating.

There is a movie I saw some years ago(can't remember which one. If you know, tell me). There is a bank ceo, and a regular joe standing at a window, looking out on a city, discussing money and power structures, and debt. The banker just says matter of factly..... "you folks all work for me".

At that moment I "saw" what he was talking about, and it was immense.

Our grandparents would never have dreamed of putting themselves under a crushing servile debt, just to "get what they want when they want it".

You want to talk about scams? Now THERE'S a scam. Selling the future away, to have a toy filled present, and it's considered NORMAL.

Stunning stuff.......... but I digress...