I pmed you. I posted here too but I don't know; it looks like all my posts are now being screened.

I'm keeping an eye on this thread, so if something is blocked I'll get it up asap if it's not spam.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

-PA27

Power advisor were you in edc?

Ill keep a look out on it too .. am interested

Hello homebusiness!

I still am in EDC, and enjoying it!

-PA27

Some moron came by, posting that they'd earned big money on EDC, and that they had no need to advertise.

Exactly 2 minutes later they dropped their link (too illiterate to even spell it right) claiming they'd had 35 emails asking about their first post.

It sort of demonstrates what type of people they're looking to attract. Sad, really.

Brian,

You cannot judge a whole program only by those who opt to go about their own businesses the wrong way. It's not about what type of people EDC is or isn't trying to attract (the type of people participating in something doesn't necessarily make it a scam, pyramid scheme or anything like). Honestly, they don't have restrictions on who can and can't join.

EDC and programs like it attract all sorts. That doesn't mean they are looking only to attract sleazy marketers who'll do anything just to recruit a member. If that were the case, many of us wouldn't be involved anymore. I thought we were trying to get away from the generalizations here.

And you still hold to your old opinions, despite the fact that you haven't yet tried to participate in th challenge that you set for me more than a month ago. It seems to me (and please, correct me if I'm wrong) that you really have little intention of actually trying to learn anything about the EDC program. I just seems, based on your claims to be very busy (even though you make it a point to pop in and continue to down the program), that you'd rather just continue on with your original thinking about the program.

Again, I have offered and continue to offer facts and relevant info about this program. I'm still more than happy to go forward with your challenge. However, unless you are willing to learn the truth for yourself as you said you were, I think it a bit unjust to make generalizations.

-PA27

It's okay PA 27 - you've misread. My comments were aimed at the individual, not the program. I had actually edited my original comment just after posting to try and make this clearer I was commenting on the individual, not the program. It was a rant about them.

To be fair here, there is nothing wrong with differing opinions, that's why democracies can be effective, more opinions mean more information. Nobody here would learn everything if every post was "I agree with what you said."

And that's my $0.02 rant for the day

To Brian: Thanks for clearing that up. I understand.

To what Mark A has said: I do agree that there is nothing wrong with differing opinions. I've always said that I respect the opinions of others, and do not bash them for thinking a certain way. However, as I've always stated, it's when folks choose to present their opinions as facts that the problems come in. For instance, I could say that chicken is the best meat. That is strictly opinion. But when I'm bashing others who don't eat chicken or eat something else, and my only retort is that "it's the best meat," or I try to use other unrelated facts to make my point appear more valid (like chicken is the best meat because it's a white meat, and you can get it without skin and fat) then I'm trying to force my opinion on others and present that opinion as fact.

Opinions are great. Variety is the spice of life, after all. But I've never once come in here spouting that EDC is the best online business opportunity. I've only answered questions, provided facts and valid arguments against what naysayers have said.

-PA27

I don't know who is ultimately right or wrong about EDC Gold, Brian, but I do have to thank you for giving me enough information to doubt it as an opportunity. I have wasted my time with enough failed businesses. My problem all along has been that I have been caught in a financial catch-22 and was in extreme financial pressure while in college and had been seeking some kind of a business that I could run (possibly on automatic pilot) and go back to school and concentrate on my studies and get A's in hard science courses, having no subconscious money worries. I'm still looking for that and so my brain spits out new creative ideas on a daily basis. I'm determined to find the "holy grail" and it must be found.

The status quo is intolerable and that is probably why many people get caught up in scams. While some of these businesses are scams, the things they say about Corporate America and the Working World are true! (Especially in the Florida Job Market). In other words, the capitalist system as we know it, may just be the biggest scam. Consider the lies we are told. If you graduate high school and go right into a job and work that job for 40 years and then retire, you'll be a millionaire. Meanwhile, US Bureau of Labor Statistics show that 85% OF THE PEOPLE OVER 65 are below the poverty line. It took a generation of Baby Boomers to change the character of most of the products and services being marketed to the public. (Things that have been making people sick).

I can understand the lure of easy money. The situation is as if you were sitting in a steaming hot cauldron, waiting for someone to rescue you and here comes a helicopter with a rope but someone proves to you that the rope is laced with a poison that soaks through the skin.

In other words, if EDC Gold is a scam and the status quo is intolerable as well, then something has to give. Something has to be created that generates an income without degrading the person or making them exhaust themselves.

What business opportunities are out there that are not scams? There has to be something!

Maybe the thing to do is to get an original product idea and market it, rather than looking to get involved with MLMs. (I'm not saying an MLM couldn't work for somebody).

I have several original ideas. I need help manufacturing and marketing them.

Hello animalhealth7!

I understand what you mean. But contrary to what Brian and many others have said, I still hold true to the statement that EDC Gold is not a scam. I have provided ample information on this forum and my website to support my claims. It just boils down to people's mindsets, and how they want to proceed in life.

I will say this. There are tons of people who assume that opportunities like EDC will make them rich overnight. And they're (unfortunately) egged on by all of the hyped up ads out here. But just because a person doesn't become successful overnight (and what truly legitimate business takes only a day to become successful?) as they thought they would, doesn't mean a business won't work. There are many who just don't want to do the work for their income.

You are also right in that the status quo is intolerable. My father is about to turn 60, and though he's retired, he's struggling to make end meet after 30 years as an educator in the Georgia school system. There just isn't enough security anymore, especially not for our parents and their parents.

And the other thing that makes me glad I work from home is the failing standard of business and service in our society. Manufacturers aren't creating solid, high quality products anymore. Instead, we pay high prices for junk that breaks, rips or comes apart almost as soon as we get it (this may seem menial, but my fiancee and I were talking about batteries just this morning. Manufacturers aren't even creating batteries that will sustain a device for longer than an hour or 2, if that, which means we're constantly going to buy new ones, and the rechargeable ones are no better. It's all their ploy to get more money, and keep more profit for low-end products, I guess). And the customer service standards of most companies, whether local, online, over the phone or whatever, have sunk to an unendurable level. It's nearly impossible to get friendly assistance anymore. But then again, I think that most of this comes from Corporate America's lack of respect or concern for its employees. When your employees aren't happy, they don't perform well. That's just a proven fact.

I do what I do because I like helping people. I'm also very customer service oriented, so I like the fact that I can show my website visitors and customers that there are still businesses out here that operate with friendly service and integrity.

In order to find the opportunities that are not scams, you just have to do your research. Don't be afraid to ask questions. Don't be afraid to ask for proof. Don't be afraid to really test a business opportunity (and the one promoting it) to it's limits. And get several opinions. Don't assume that just because you talk to a few that only care about the money, that every distributor or rep will be like that. That is why I like forums so much. They're good places to get right into the meat of discussion about anything.

I wish you luck in your search. I do know of other opportunities, some of which I'm also involved in, that may be a good fit for you. Feel free to contact me if you're interested in hearing about those (as apparently some folks are allowed to post affiliate links here, but others aren't). Just PM me or shoot me an email.

If you have any questions about EDC, feel free to post them here, and I'll be glad to answer them. As I've stated, I feel it my duty to provide the facts so that folks can make decisions for themselves instead of feeling pressured. You can also visit my website, which is listed on my profile. I've just added some video proof of my earnings as well, if anyone is interested, and will be doing so every couple of weeks or so.

Good luck with your search for that special opportunity. Life is great once you find it!

-PA27

And by the way, I also have a business resource website if you're interested in learning how to start up with your ideas and market them. I can also give some helpful advice on marketing (don't worry, not selling it, just free advice) if you need it. Contact me if you're interested.

-PA27