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Power_Advisor27 · #**226** (**permalink**) 09-04-2007, 02:06 AM

Just one comment, to clear up something that was said earlier (by ronia1),

EDC Gold is not MLM. It is direct sales. We do not use the MLM pyramid structure, matrices or anything of that nature. My customers pay me directly through 1-way transactions, and I don't depend on a downline to earn my income. Also, our members do not receive checks from a company, or receive fast-start bonuses, spill over or the like. Those are generally the characteristics of an MLM structure and pay plan. EDC Gold does not operate on any of those. Not to mention, we have resell rights to the products we've purchased, allowing us to brand ourselves and our businesses, and go beyond simple recruiting. MLM companies do not offer resell rights to their products.

Further, with MLM's, there are usually various levels that members have to reach (based on how many members in their organization or how much they've already earned) in order to earn larger amounts, and there are also usually "legs" or sides that must be filled before the next level of sponsorship can be reached. Many MLM's also require their members to be one what's called "case auto-ship" or something similar. This means that the distributors have to purchase a certain amount of product each month to remain members. With EDC Gold, there are no varying levels to reach, no "legs" to build up and no additional required purchases in order to remain a member.

And yes, it is best to keep an open mind. I feel (as I've said before) that most of the opposition with programs like this one comes from the fact that individuals don't completely understand the program. Most who take the time to better understand it, see its potential. That does not necessarily mean that they purchase or become members, but they at least understand it enough to realize that it may be a legitimate way to earn a living from home.

-PA27

brian · #**227** (**permalink**) 09-04-2007, 05:17 PM

PA27, I run a couple of companies, and am expanding fast. I need to prioritise looking after those interests, before I have leisure time enough to start exploring other people's businesses.

You keep hammering the point of EDC Gold being successful, but it's already been pointed out to you that there are various aspects that seem directly related to the ugly side of MLM, and "Easy Daily Cash Gold" has yet to exonerate itself.

You also make a point of disclaiming any kind of pyramid structure, even though it's already been covered that new members have to pay their "sponsor" their first sales, and additionally, that the only people being sold to are within the EDC Gold scheme itself. It is also being sold as a "get rich scheme", and even calls itself "Easy Daily Cash Gold".

None of these signals are positive, and you have yet to address any of these concerns, other than to distract to other issues, state your self belief in the company, and remind us all how successful the company is doing.

So despite 20+ pages of this thread, the core concerns do stand.

Meanwhile, you keep letting your guard down with cheap comments on my being too busy to validate this MLM scheme. This evening I've had to draw up an expansion plan for taking on 11 new employees (despite taking on a handful new people last month), and am about to start advertising to bring them on board. That's busy.

I apologised for my previous comments because I don't think such discussions should be personal, but there's a nasty little triumphant tone in your comments. My disagreeing with EDC Gold stands on the original points raised, which I've repeated above. Unless you have an answer - a direct answer - to those, instead of circumventing them, then there's nothing really to look into.

If it walks like a ___, talks like a ___, then it's going to be perceived as a ___. EDC Gold needs to justify itself, not myself.

Power_Advisor27 · #**228** (**permalink**) 09-05-2007, 01:53 AM

I respond as I do to your lack of interest for these reasons, brian:

First off, you are the one who set me that challenge, not the other way around. I preceded professionally, offering you information, providing screen shots, and inviting you to our a few of our training classes. You did not take me up on any of that. I didn't even hear from you for a few weeks after that. Yet, I see you continuing to post negative comments about this program on this thread, and continuing to be active in other parts of the forum. If our roles were reversed, what would that look like to you?

I do not consider myself triumphant. This isn't a battle to be won, a victory to claim. I am still waiting for you to act on the challenge that you set for me. However, the more I see your activity in other threads and parts of this forum, the less I feel that you ever intended to look into and learn about the program. That is my honest opinion, based on the run-around you've been giving me for more than 3 months now. I don't deny that you have a life. All I ask is for people to be honest with me, and more importantly themselves. If you never had an interest in learning more about EDC Gold (and I feel that if you did you'd have found a spot of time in more than 3 months to look into the info I sent to you), you never should have set the challenge.

Now, you have also made accusations that I have "circumvented" the main issues at hand. That is not true, and if in 20+ pages you have not found my answers (which I strive to make as clear as day), then something is wrong. But just to put everything on the table, I'll address them again, right now.

1.) What do YOU consider the "ugly side of MLM?" And what are the "various" aspects that you speak of, because the only two I've heard being bounced back and forth is the 2 up system and the way we do nothing but recruit (I'll address this in just a moment). Because I believe I just described in my last post how EDC differs from most MLM programs. If you are referring only to the 2 up compensation plan, then lets get something clear. First off, we do not continue to earn on each and every member (as you would with MLM). I have also described on more than one occasion why 2 sales are to be passed up. These are referred to as training sales. With commission-based jobs in the work force, this would be referred to as reaching the "quota." If I'm a sponsor, and I'm helping a new member by training them, assisting them in posting advertisements, and helping them to close those first sales, should there not be any compensation for the time I've taken to help that person succeed? That is not illegal. As I've also mentioned, several industries employ a similar business model, such as furniture sales, car sales and real estate. New salespeople are taken in by a trainer, who assists them, trains them, and helps them close the first few sales (with real estate, the "trainer" even accompanies the new salesperson to their first few showings, and helps them to show and sell the property). A portion, if not all of these sales, goes to the company and the trainer. It is basically the same with EDC.

Next, I've also mentioned that while we operate on the 2 up system, it is not something that is set in stone, but at the discretion of each individual sponsor. Seldom (if ever) have I made my team members pass up these sales. I know several others who also waive those training sales on a regular basis.

What other ugly aspects of MLM might you be referring to? You and others seem to feel that the only way we make money is by recruiting. I have also stated that this is not true, and how. Yes, there is a side of EDC where we bring in new members. I've never denied that. But as I've said many times, this is not the only way we earn. We have retail products (which no one ever feels the need to mention), which are sold to clients who have nothing to do with EDC as a company. We have resell rights to all of the products in the marketing suite that we've purchased. Many of us have made a nice income selling these products individually, myself included. And there's no way I could have sold these to people already involved in EDC, because they have the same thing. So how then are we only selling to people "within the EDC Gold scheme itself?"

I'll continue in the next post.

Power_Advisor27 · #**229** (**permalink**) 09-05-2007, 01:54 AM

2.) Now lets talk about the other claims you've made. You say that it's being sold as a "get rich quick scheme." Keep in mind that it's individual distributors who market in this way, not the company. If you have an issue with the way the program is being marketed, you should take it up with those individuals. Craig and Mike do not encourage such behavior. They make it known in our welcome letter and in our training that this program is anything but. They emphasize that you must put forth effort in order to earn. As well, I know of several other sponsors who emphasize the same point, including myself. I have always said that there are bad apples in this and any program. But you cannot fault the company as a whole for how these individuals choose to act or market. I do not sell EDC as a "get rich quick" scheme. Many of us do not. And the company, while it may say that you can earn a large income from home, and that many members already have, it does NOT say you can become a millionaire overnight. Lets also look that the replicated sites. I'm sure by now we all know what the url's are. Read the text. They do not speak of a "get rich quick" scheme. They simply same that they're offering a lucrative software business in which members have already made over $10 Million total. The sites do not say that you'll make $20,000 in your first month. They don't say to quit your job because this is the end-all of all business opportunities...none of that. So where do you get the idea that it's promoted as a "get rich quick" scheme (other than from individual sponsors"? From it's name, Easy Daily Cash? Well, lets look at that as well. When you know how to work this business properly and ethically, it is very easy to make money on a weekly or even daily basis. This is happening for me right now, and I put in effort every day. Now, did I say you can sit on your butt and do nothing and make thousands per day? Did I say you can join, get a bunch of other people to join, sell nothing and still make lots of money? No, and neither does the company. What we do as distributors with EDC Gold is much easier than slaving away at a job where there's little to no financial security. Did I say so easy that you do nothing? Did I say that I take long vacations, sit at home in front of the TV or go out to dinner every night and the money just falls into my lap? No, I didn't. I have always said that succeeding with this business takes 2 things: proper guidance from a dedicated sponsor and personal effort. And I have always stated that no business grows successful magically overnight. That all businesses take time and effort to build. Where then, do you get the "get rich quick" idea from?

Someone in another forum has tried to list the ways that EDC Gold is similar to PAS (and insists we're scamming people and we'll be shut down). They even went so far as to post a few quotes from articles about the SEC's investigation of PAS. In those articles, there were statements of how PAS's distributors used domains such as lazyandrich.com. Have you ever seen EDC as a company (not individual distributors) sink to such a level? I personally haven't, and I'm involved with the company. Have any of us (the distributors) actually admitted that EDC is a pyramid and it's best to get in at a certain level (as members of other opportunities have)? I don't think so. Yes, other members of EDC have posted single comments with their affiliate link, and you consider that spam. But again, is that individual distributors or the company?

So now, can you honestly say that I haven't addressed these issues in the 80 some-odd posts I've made on this thread? Or that I've skirted around the issues? I don't think so. Not to mention, I've addressed these and other concerns on my website, and even in my video series on YouTube. Whatever you may find to say about EDC or about me, you cannot say that I've neglected to address these issues. The proof is right here in the thread. And I haven't been one of those people who posts one-liners with links to my website. Throughout my entire time on this thread, I've provided valid info on this program and answered questions. People are not as sheltered or slow as others make them out to be. If I'd been avoiding main issues or failing to answer major questions, I feel that others (beside yourself) would have come forward and called me out. I'm a business woman. I, just like anyone else, don't like to lose money. I wouldn't still be working with this opportunity if it didn't provide any kind of benefit. And I'm not just talking about income, but also networking relationships and training. Nor would I have a team of individuals who are happily working toward their own goals while enjoying the benefits this program brings.

You say that discussions like this shouldn't become personal, but from the start that is exactly what you've made this one. And your last post only confirms this even more. If there is one thing that folks learn about me, it's that I'm a "put your money where your mouth is" kind of person, and I hold myself to the same standards. So I have no problem practicing what I preach, and I expect others (for the sake of professionalism) to do the same. So if I'm harsh about holding you to your own challenge, forgive me. I just feel that we should all, as adults, keep to our word. And it's disappointing when others expect this of me, but not themselves.

All I've asked, and all I'll continue to ask, is the we all act professionally. I'll continue to do that by answering questions and addressing concerns. If you don't care to take the time to learn about the EDC program, then so be it. That's certainly your choice. But I find it hard to truly evaluate a company you know little to nothing about. That is just my opinion.

Let me know if there are any other concerns you feel I have not addressed over the last few months. If we have to get down to pulling quotes out of individual posts, then so be it. But like you, I stand by my original claims. EDC Gold is not a scam. It is a legitimate way for people to earn money from home. It's products have value to those interested in web design, business start-up, marketing and entrepreneurship. And as distributors, we do not earn only from recruiting. Take from this what you will.

-PA27

brian · #**230** (**permalink**) 09-06-2007, 01:47 PM

I honestly did hope to take you up on your offer - but I honestly do not have the time.

As for the answers above - I'm sorry, but it still reads as company marketing.

For example, in Point 1, you deny there's no MLM/pyramid element, and yet you think absolutely nothing wrong with the first couple of sales going to the tier above - calling them "training sales".

As for point 2 - if it's so abhorrent for the company founders to see "Easy Daily Cash Gold" promoted as an easy welath scheme, then why did they name the company that, and why don't they stop the marketing? If EDC is so tough, why didn't they call it "Difficult Daily Cash Gold" or similar? As before, they have projected an image, the image is marketed to, and I'm sorry but cynics like me are going to react to it.

On a personal level, I've said before, I think you'd be an asset to any company. But I think you're wearing rose-tinted spectacles on this issue, and at some point they'll fall off. As happens in a lot of heavy-sales orientated companies.

2c.

(And yes, I'm still busy - typing this up before getting the kids tea - stopped by because I was alerted to trouble on another thread

).

Power_Advisor27 · #**231** (**permalink**) 09-06-2007, 04:26 PM

Brian,

As I've stated, I don't doubt that you have a life or things to do. However, it seems a bit unjust and unprofessional of you to continue putting EDC Gold down when you have not made any attempts yet to learn more about the company. That is just my 2 cents.

Also, if you feel that everything I've said only reads as company marketing, then that is your opinion, but does not take away that I've answered all of your concerns directly, and on more than one occasion. I have provided valid information about this program which can be referenced. You have only provided your opinion. As well, if you feel I'm wearing "rose-tinted spectacles," then so be it. But I don't think I'm as blind to what's going on as you may think. As I've stated before, I'm no sucker or dummy. I know how to do research, and I know a lot more about law and business then you may think (having owned a small business myself). If I felt in the slightest that EDC didn't operate according to law, then I would not tarnish my own name by getting (or staying) involved.

I made a call to the FTC's Consumer Response Center today, just before 2pm EST. I asked stated exactly what company I'm with, told a bit about our operations, and asked some specific questions as to whether we're operating within the law. For the response I received, it does not seem (as I've always felt) that EDC is doing anything that would cause the company to fall under investigation. The representative I spoke with informed me of the way in which complaints are handled. stating that they do not handle individual disputes, but will investigate when they have received a large number of complaints. Also, she stated that the majority of complaints fall under 2 categories: deceptive advertisement or non-receipt of goods/services. EDC does not falsely represent what it provides. There are terms stating exactly what is offered, the return policy and so forth, that can be viewed before a potential or customer makes a purchase. The websites also list an Earnings Disclaimer, which is a requirement. EDC does not falsely represent itself just because it is called "Easy Daily Cash Gold." Because that phrase can be interpreted in several ways, that alone is not a proper basis for discrediting the program.

I have also requested a transcript of this conversation in email and audio formats, and will make this available on my website as soon as I receive it.

So far, it does not seem that EDC Gold is operating outside of the law, or that there are any pending or current investigations surrounding the program. The company seems to be adhering to the guidelines that have been set for home business by the FTC, which are mainly as follows (this is what I've gathered from my own research and today's conversation):

Distributors must provide all information about the company and products before receiving payment
Company must provide a disclaimer for earnings, stating that any and all figures used on marketing material and/or websites are examples only, and not indicative of the results that will be achieved by every member.
Company must provide products and/or services in exchange for payments.
At least 50% of commissions earned by distributors should be the result of sales to end-users

EDC as a company adheres to all of those guidelines. Those which focus more on individual distributors will have to be evaluated on an individual basis. My stance on this program still stands, and I'll continue to answer questions and address concerns regarding the EDC Gold program. However, I respect your opinions. If you do not feel this program is what it claims to be, that is entirely on you. And my offer to provide more info to you still stands whenever your life slows down.

-PA27

brian · #**232** (**permalink**) 09-07-2007, 03:41 PM

PA27, I may have my own personal concerns about EDC Gold - it's hard to negate those - but I do really like the fact that you've stuck around, and generally made a point of patiently putting forward your argument.

At present, I may have difficulty agreeing with it - but by not trying to censor you, and allow you to make a counter argument, I think that's the most constructive outcome for everyone.

I'm happy to allow the public reference of this discussion - so that individuals can make their own individual minds about the EDC Gold program.

In the meantime, I'm beat - my business bank messed up, freezing my company payments for 10 days by two sets of cock-ups by the bank, and when it all got back to normal today, and I should have spent the day catching up on the book keeping, I've instead had to spend the afternoon fighting off a lawsuit over another thread here.

Thank crunchie it's Friday.

Power_Advisor27 · #**233** (**permalink**) 09-07-2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian

PA27, I may have my own personal concerns about EDC Gold - it's hard to negate those - but I do really like the fact that you've stuck around, and generally made a point of patiently putting forward your argument.

At present, I may have difficulty agreeing with it - but by not trying to censor you, and allow you to make a counter argument, I think that's the most constructive outcome for everyone.

I'm happy to allow the public reference of this discussion - so that individuals can make their own individual minds about the EDC Gold program.

In the meantime, I'm beat - my business bank messed up, freezing my company payments for 10 days by two sets of cock-ups by the bank, and when it all got back to normal today, and I should have spent the day catching up on the book keeping, I've instead had to spend the afternoon fighting off a lawsuit over another thread here.

Thank crunchie it's Friday.

Well Brian,

I'm sorry about your situation with your business banking and issues with the forum. I hope it all works out for you. And I do thank you for allowing this EDC discussion to carry on. I have had experiences with another well-known forum that has elected just to lock down any thread about EDC Gold, and delete my posts. So much for free speech....

Anyway thanks for allowing such constitutional freedoms here, and I hope your personal situations work out.

-PA27

SuzieQ · #**234** (**permalink**) 09-11-2007, 09:14 AM

I had to take a minute to congratulate you as well Brian; pa27 struck a cord with me on this. :-)

trev2469 · #**235** (**permalink**) 09-12-2007, 06:11 PM

Well from my experience I see nothing wrong with this business.

In the last couple of months I have had tons of training, support and someone to guide me through everything.

I have found with every business venture a person gets involved with there is a certain amount of risk, you do your due diligence and see if you think its a right fit for you or not. If not you walk away and onto the next thing. But nothing has raised any red flags with this company.

The information I have gained here is invaluable and I am way further ahead then I was just a couple of months ago.

Have a great day everyone

FrankThomas · #**236** (**permalink**) 09-24-2007, 12:11 PM

OK, let me take this opportunity to say that I have had a chance to exchange emails with PA 27, 3 or so weeks ago, before I even knew this post existed. She then came across as a very conscientious business woman who legitimately cares about the business she is affiliated with and the people she mentors and trains. I myself am NOT associated with EDC but would be if not for an ethical barrier(I represent another venture). After reading through some of these posts, it's clear to me that PA 27 has displayed a level of professionalism that is unheard of in the business realm today.

My point?
Be considerate of people like her who conduct business in a proper fashion while at the same time getting all the right information to make that informed decision.

sincerely, Frank Thomas

FrankThomas · #**237** (**permalink**) 09-24-2007, 12:18 PM

OK, let me take this opportunity to say that I have had a chance to exchange emails with PA 27, 3 or so weeks ago, before I even knew this post existed. She then came across as a very conscientious business woman who legitimately cares about the business she is affiliated with and the people she mentors and trains. I myself am NOT associated with EDC but would be if not for an ethical barrier(I represent another venture). After reading through some of these posts, it's clear to me that PA 27 has displayed a level of professionalism that is unheard of in the business realm today.

My point?
Be considerate of people like her who conduct business in a proper fashion while at the same time getting all the right information to make that informed decision.

sincerely, Frank Thomas

csendres · #**238** (**permalink**) 09-24-2007, 05:29 PM

Hello everyone

I am sorry for what I am about to do, but brian is right. It may be difficult to understand any other way so look at an example.

If EDC had completed the market, and by that I mean dried up the well of interested new joining members, If there were NO ONE left to join EDC, where would the money come from? The Black Box? Do you think an entire organization dedicated to selling the one cool product that can make anyone any money might find itself losing members to market saturation?

Do you deluded people who justify a business venture just because it happens to be working during the time of your participation somehow fail to understand what fallout means? Once you reach the "END" so to speak, the time when there is no one left to join the club, the last levels to join disengage from the "business" because there is no promise of money.

Compare this to legitimate MLM. Legitimate MLM is "Product" driven. There are lists miles long with all the stupidity MLM has represented but it is not and never has been a pyramid. MLM pays people for selling products. 1 ups and 2 ups pay people for new memberships with the thin veil of value based on "association" with products.

The business model EDC Gold uses and other business models like it disguise themselves in the clothing of legitimate MLM in order to find acceptance in the business community. Looking like MLM keeps people from actually looking at the long term cap that is the only possible result of 1 and 2 ups. History repeats itself people. Look back in time and see the Pyramid for what it is.

Although this discussion has proved some excellent character from some people, it was started to discern the quality of the business model EDC Gold espouses and any others like it. EDC GOLD makes money, and it will continue to do so. That cannot change the fact that when the market ends so does the company and that makes it an unattractive long term business model.

U now have the pipe, I just stuffed it,... smoke!

Power_Advisor27 · #**239** (**permalink**) 09-25-2007, 03:44 PM

I'd like to ask a question. While I don't deny that MLM can be a product-driven facet of the home business industry, there are many distributors (just as with EDC Gold and other direct sales models) who do not represent their MLM opportunity as a product-driven business. If this were not the case, you would not see so many distributors working so hard to get potential prospects to visit "business overview" calls. I have been in MLM myself, as has my fiancee and many of our friends. Not only were we encouraged to "recruit" (our sponsors talked about the product, but not nearly as much as getting people to overview and 3-way calls), but every person who's approached me with some type of MLM opportunity has done so in order to get me into their downline, in other words recruiting.

If legitimate MLM (and I'd be interested to hear your definition of this) is completely product-driven and does not encourage recruiting, then why does nearly every major MLM company in existence (and keep in mind that I've been involved in, and approached by nearly all of the major ones) reward their members with "fast start" bonuses for signing up new members? Why would there be a need for such if MLM's do not pay members to bring in new members? Why are things like brining new people to home parties, overview calls and 3-way calls so strongly stressed? Why would you need an overview call or a 3-way call just to sell product?

Not only this, but the main component of most MLM business models is to continually pay members on every member in their downline or through "spillover" (whether this is done in forced matrices or otherwise). MLM is known for paying a percentage of profits residually on each and every current member. Does that not create a pyramid-like structure? MLM is also known for paying members continually on the efforts (recruiting and sales) of their "downline." Can that not also be viewed as a pyramid-like structure?

Now, lets talk about the products and market, and make a comparison. If anything, direct sales and MLM are similar in that they tend to choose industries that are fast-growing. However, the difference I've noticed is that many (not all) MLM companies have gone the route of lotions, potions, pills, legal aid and insurance of some kind. Can you honestly say that Noni juice, Ultimate Skin-Smoothing lotion or Age-Defying cremes are not overplayed? How then, would the markets for MLM be any different from EDC Gold and what it provides? At least with EDC Gold, I have products and services I can market to anyone, regardless of what industry they work in or company they represent. With Mary Kay, Herbalife or Avon (considered legitimate MLM's by most who know of them), a member is limited to individuals who would need make-up, creams and lotions on a regular basis. Or with Noni, you're limited to the health-conscious who look for more organic remedies. Those products are not marketable to just anyone. That could be viewed as a problem for those opportunities, having a limited market that thousands of distributors are promoting to. However, they have been around for years which says something: as long as the population of the world keeps growing, and young people with spending power are coming into their own, there will always be a market for these products. I feel this is the same with EDC Gold and what we provide. Marketing training and services are something that will always be needed, by everyone from simply bloggers looking to learn how to drive traffic to their sites and blogs, to large corporations looking to corner the market in their given industries. I even have a few members who are a part of MLM companies, who have come to me because now that they realize they have to sell product in order to balance their overhead (most MLM's require members to be on some sort of case auto-ship, so they must pay for a certain amount of product each month), they need to learn how to market it. As long as there are businesses being developed, there will always be a need for marketing training and services. How then can you say that the market for what EDC Gold offers would dry up (I guarantee you the ratio of start-up businesses to individuals looking to purchase make-up is much higher in favor of the businesses).

And last, it seems that you as well as others feel that the products EDC Gold provides have no value. Yet you mention this of MLM:

Quote:

Originally Posted by csendres

There are lists miles long with all the stupidity MLM has represented but it is not and never has been a pyramid.

What do you mean by "all the stupidity that MLM has represented?" Do you mean as far as products, because if so then you are contradicting yourself. I don't think "stupidity" is something that a customer would want to buy, nor that any ethical entrepreneur would want to promote. So in my mind, that translates to "rubbish" or "garbage." If this is in fact what you meant, then how can you claim (on the basis of your own comments) that MLM is any different from EDC Gold? You are calling products from the MLM model "stupidity." I can't say that I've ever heard that stated about marketing training or products, especially not by the happy customers that are enjoying those products and services today.

Point blank, I feel that these opportunities and their chosen products should be viewed in the eyes of the beholders (I'm not talking about legally, just in reference to those doing research and deciding on a program to join). Who are you, or who am I, to say what is or isn't valuable to another person or business? We can only say what we consider valuable in our minds and to our everyday lives. I personally have no use for all of the lotions, potions, juices, pills and insurance policies being promoted by most MLM companies. That does not mean these products have no value, just none to me. I feel that every business, regardless of industry, product or service needs marketing. However, there are many who feel that EDC Gold's particular products are not what they need. That is their opinion, and that is fine, but there are plenty who feel differently.

I feel that the best we can do is agree to disagree. Though I had no success with it, I do not have anything personally against MLM. I just don't prefer the most common business models or the choices in products I've seen to promote. If you feel more strongly about MLM, then stand for what you believe in. I feel (and can see every day) that I'm helping others get their businesses off the ground. That is what is important to me. I feel that both business models, whether 1/2 up or MLM, can be legitimate and lucrative if treated like actual businesses and promoted with integrity.

-PA27

Power_Advisor27 · #**240** (**permalink**) 09-25-2007, 05:02 PM

And I have just one more question. I've never seen you on this or any other forum regarding EDC Gold or MLM. Why then, does it seem like you have taken this discussion so personally as to make a statement like:

Quote:

Originally Posted by csendres

U now have the pipe, I just stuffed it,... smoke!

?

I believe brian and I already discussed how personal comments such as this can be viewed as unprofessional, immature and irrelevant. If you are trying to prove a point, you have not helped yourself with such behavior.

-PA27

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