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Old 03-28-2007, 10:15 AM
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I think the biggest problem is people looking for "easy" money. Look at any entrepreneur/business owner profiled for thier success and you'll almost certainly be looking at individuals who put a lot of time and effort to build a secure business model with longevity.

Buying into "get rich" schemes and "work from home" schemes is often no better than buying lottery tickets - sure, the winners get showcased as an inspiration to everyone else, but the chances of everyone else actually winning are pretty low.

And those who do make it in these schemes could probably have made more money and have better income longevity by putting the same effort into a properly developed business plan.

The best way to find a good business idea is to examine what you are actually genuinely interested in, and what skills you may have to work with that.

For example, I came to the net as an aspiring writer, so I devoted time and effort into developing a community around genre fiction in my area. It's now the largest community of its kind online and I regularly work with publicity depts from Penguine books to Warner bros because of it.
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Old 03-31-2007, 07:13 AM
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Thank you for welcoming me to this forum. First, I would like to say that I am a professional woman with a doctoral degree. I am considered by many to be an expert in marketing online. I hope that my opinion is not suppressed as I would like to say that I joined EDC Gold because it is clearly the best home business opportunity of its kind available and it is the first program of its kind where I see that the vast majority of people are succeeding.

It is true that there are many scams out here on the Internet to be avoided, but EDC Gold is not one of them or I would never be involved with it. My goal is and has always been to help as many people reach their potential in life as possible.

When 90% of all home based and small corporate businesses are failing on the Internet one has to examine the dynamics that create this fact. Without massive marketing efforts to get people to your website to purchase what you have to offer any online business is doomed to failure. EDC Gold separates itself from the rest by providing the most outstanding marketing training, compensation plan and products available on the Internet. Whether free ads, small cost ads or paying for leads, we do it on a grande scale and teach others to do the same exactly the same way. This is the basis of financial success on the Internet. The average person starting a home business, if not thoroughly trained in marketing, will fail. That is one aspect that separates EDC Gold from all the rest. We teach massive marketing. Just like any brick and mortar business you have to have interest in your site of business and without people no business on or offline can survive.

Just because a product is a virtual information product does not detract from its value. Products that teach people how to create audios, videos, audio streaming, podcasting, blogging, article submission are valuable tools to have in any Internet marketers arsenal in order to survive online. Why wouldn't they be? Everyone knows that the current and future trends of Internet marketing success are in creating audios and videos...just look at YouTube. Soon Google will be filled with video ads, so this type of software offering is right on target. EDC Gold offers distributors over $125,00.00 worth of software that is useable and valuable...not only that but complete resale rights are given to these products. This is by no means garbage. Many distributors bundle the software and resell it.

EDC Gold requires work like any other business...but you can succeed if you have 2 hours a day or more to dedicate to your business. Focus, patience and consistency are the main traits needed to succeed in any online business. One must proceed with a positive mindset in any worthwile endeavor. I am a mover and a shaker who makes things happen for myself and my associates and I proceed with determination and motivation so that my family and their families will have a better life. I do not have time to wallow in self pity if I get minor setbacks. I am too busy taking action on everyone's behalf. I have been a success coach for 35 years. Before I entered the financial arena it was my job to rehabilitate the most severely injured individuals on this planet who could barely function or enjoy life...to restore them to their proper stance in life through my talents when all else had failed for them. My work with EDC Gold is no different!

Extremely reputable companies are partnering with EDC Gold and in the near future ( within a month). Because of our marketing expertise we will be working with corporate businesses to teach them how to market using tools and training that can only be described as "space age" and totally innovative.

It is mandatory to study and question any potential home business program in great detail before deciding to start that business. I have examined EDC Gold to the nth detail with a fine tooth comb and have found nothing to fault here.

I appreciate Brian's concern for the public in these matters, but must aver that EDC Gold is one of the finest forthcoming companies which I have ever had the privilege to be associated with and the purpose of this business is to bring success...at long last...to those who have been struggling online to give themselves a better life. My biggest joy is seeing another person succeed and there is no way I could be involved in an enterprise that would do the opposite for one moment.

Thank you for listening to my opinion and allowing me to share my experiences with you.

Rachel Rounsifer
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:14 PM
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Brian,

I hve been in internet marketing for 4 years now and for 3 out of the four I failed miserabily until I met someone who was willing to teach me the ropes. I joined edc Gold back in Jan. and although I would not call it a pyramid scheme by any stretch, you have a fat cat by the name of ___ who basically advertises that he will teach you this or that but he does none. Meanwhile He is the only six figure earner in the company so those of you that read this know who I am talking about. I think that it is so possible to make a decent residual income online IF and only if you have strong mentorship. EDC does have the software suite as its products so it can hardly be called a scam. What is disturbing to me is that these products do not download properly, and none of the support is there. I can afford to "lose a thousand dollars" but most people cannot. I dropped this one after the first month I was in it because of the product suite not working correctly and could not ethically sell it to anyone. To make it online you need a mentor and they are hard to come by and you also need a decent product which EDC Gold has neither. People if you are reading this post and have been successful then I am happy for you. Thsi one was not for me.
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Old 04-01-2007, 08:17 PM
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Brian,

I hve been in internet marketing for 4 years now and for 3 out of the four I failed miserabily until I met someone who was willing to teach me the ropes. I joined edc Gold back in Jan. and although I would not call it a pyramid scheme by any stretch, you have a fat cat by the name of ___ who basically advertises that he will teach you this or that but he does none. Meanwhile He is the only six figure earner in the company so those of you that read this know who I am talking about. I think that it is so possible to make a decent residual income online IF and only if you have strong mentorship. EDC does have the software suite as its products so it can hardly be called a scam. What is disturbing to me is that these products do not download properly, and none of the support is there. I can afford to "lose a thousand dollars" but most people cannot. I dropped this one after the first month I was in it because of the product suite not working correctly and could not ethically sell it to anyone. To make it online you need a mentor and they are hard to come by and you also need a decent product which EDC Gold has neither. People if you are reading this post and have been successful then I am happy for you. Thsi one was not for me.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:59 PM
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Rachel, as with all discussion about EDC Gold online, what you say is devoid of facts and instead filled with lovely fluffy language which doesn't really say anything other than you've joined up to a scheme, and will support it just because you've signed up.

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I am considered by many to be an expert in marketing online.
I'd love to see some references from people in the internet marketing world.

My day job is corporate marketing, so I kind of expect to see names I recognise.

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It is true that there are many scams out here on the Internet to be avoided, but EDC Gold is not one of them or I would never be involved with it.
All you're telling me is that you joined a scheme, and because you joined a scheme it couldn't possibly be a scam or pyramid scheme. This isn't an argument.

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EDC Gold separates itself from the rest by providing the most outstanding marketing training, compensation plan and products available on the Internet.
You've simply said the EDC Gold scheme is well marketed - you tellingly ignore the fact that many home businesses fail because they are chasing easy money with no long-term plan.

Whether EDC Gold is well-marketed or not does not validate itself as a business model with either legality or longevity.

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Whether free ads, small cost ads or paying for leads, we do it on a grande scale and teach others to do the same exactly the same way. This is the basis of financial success on the Internet.
This, along with some of your other statements, is what I'd expect to hear from a pyramid scheme. You're teaching others to market a scheme - one I've already suggested as pretty questionable.

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The average person starting a home business, if not thoroughly trained in marketing, will fail. That is one aspect that separates EDC Gold from all the rest. We teach massive marketing.
Again, all you've said is that EDC Gold is aggressively marketed. You've not even begun to state any kind of benefit/risk assessment in business terms.

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EDC Gold requires work like any other business...but you can succeed if you have 2 hours a day or more to dedicate to your business.
Again, you're selling the "easy money" concept. Real-life valid business models don't work on "easy money".

Don't believe me? Check out the profile of any renown entrepreneur and you'll find people who dedicated all their time for years to build their business.

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Extremely reputable companies are partnering with EDC Gold and in the near future ( within a month).
Keep me updated on this, because I don't believe you.

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It is mandatory to study and question any potential home business program in great detail before deciding to start that business.
Let's be clear, probably the vast majority of home business programs are scams and shams, and that's why so many people jump from one to the next, looking for easy money, when they should be looking to develop a working business.

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I appreciate Brian's concern for the public in these matters
Thanks for that - I didn't hear anything from the Nevada DA, so I filed a complaint with the FTC a couple of days ago, and they got back to me today. Let's hope the FTC takes a very cold hard look at the entire EDC Gold program.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:08 PM
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I hve been in internet marketing for 4 years now and for 3 out of the four I failed miserabily until I met someone who was willing to teach me the ropes.

I think that it is so possible to make a decent residual income online IF and only if you have strong mentorship.
I'm sincerely grateful for your response, but excuse me if I find it a little bit weird that someone states they've been an internet marketer for 4 years and been a failure during most of that time - and blame it on poor mentoring.

Entreprenuers and business owners don't wait for people to hold their hands and make money for them - they go out and just do it. If they don't know how, they make themselves learn.

If you need aggressive marketing and a mentor who'll grab your first profits in order to sell a "product" and be a "success", then I'd respectfully suggest you look at developing a different business model instead.

Seriously, if the EDC Gold program were selling crap in tinfoil, I doubt many of the "marketers" involved in the scheme would notice the difference. But would proclaim it's benefits just as loudly.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:31 AM
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EDC GOLD IS A SCAM! I came across this EDC Gold on some website that listed the money making opportunites that are scams and stated EDC Gold is not!

After trying to figure out what it is they they are selling, I e-mailed the owner Craig who was listed on the home page of the website.

I simply said in the e-mail I do not understand what is being sold.

Craig Garcia responded to my e-mail = "Wow, We only have the hottest selling products on the internet! We sell software programs that help anyone become a better internet marketer and drive more traffic to their website."

(Sounds like, the people shelling out almost 1k have to learn how to get more people to pay 1k to learn how they too can get people to pay 1k to them. By driving traffic to a site, with a promise of getting richof not selling anything??? Just a get rich quick idea of a bunch of people needing to find themselves people to pay them money so they can teach other people how to get people to pay them money, interesting!) The are defrauding innocent people.

So I responded to Craig and said I got that, but what are the people on the website selling?

Craig Garcia responds with = ????????????????

I respond = For being the owner of this company, one would think you wouldn't be so rude! Thanks for all your help

Craig Garcia's last response was = It's obvious that you are too stupid to succeed.

A legitimate business owner would never treat a customer like this. What a piece of work this guy is. Do not fall for this scam of EDC Gold. They will eventually get shut down. EDC GOLD = FRAUDS!!!

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Old 04-06-2007, 02:27 AM
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Brian,
You are just a bit weird period. I have more money, joy and freedom than you EVER will. No one held my hand I made a solid decision to listen to the people teaching me. When I humbled out and decided NOT to do things my way is when I listened and acted. Mentorship is the key. Folks, I have just learned that Brian has a problem with other people making money. Sorry , Brian with an attitude like yours you have no right to be the moderiator any forum--period. ItIsPossible
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Old 04-06-2007, 07:35 PM
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I am newto this forum and I find it very interesting. For the last 3 days I have been doing my due diligence on EDC gold. Always applying the laws of the universe to everything I do in life, its amazing that I have been guided to this forum. I have also been involved in home based businesses in the past only to find the harsh reality that it wasn't what it was described to be. Regardless of my experience and thousands of dollars lost, the never dying desire within me to fine a an internet business which I can work from home brings me to this forum. I spoke to two separate members of EDC Gold both of which stated how they made over 20k in their first month. I even went as far as speaking to Craig and Mark, the owners, who sounded very genuine and sincere. The deal is that, being a former police officer, I am still suspicious about this opportunity. Its sound so surreal! Its not that easy to advertise on the internet or anywhere else if you do not know what you are doing or don't have the cash to do it. Thanks to this forum and my 3 days of investigating EDC I have decided to pass. I am in the process of looking at the 1step system and the perfect wealth formula. Anyone with any input on these or any other programs, I would greatly appreciate your opinions. Thanks
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Old 04-06-2007, 07:39 PM
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Brian,

I'm relatively new to all the internet scams. I think I made a HUGE mistake in buying into Dave Espino's PMI program. I've invested thousands & am finding out the market's saturated. I don't know if it's possible to get my money back (I doubt it!!). Any suggestions?

Mike
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