Hi Everybody .... My 2¢ about EDC Gold.

My short story, is, last year, I decided I wanted to explore the internet, as a place to market and sell information products, online. My journey started with an e-book about e-books, and grew from there.

Yes, over that time, I spent a fair bit, here and there, on information products, and I flat out DEVOURED THEM. It's been 6 months, and then a few days ago, I signed up with EDC Gold. I do know some folks who are making significant incomes onlines with EDC Gold, and I want to do that too.

The thing that made me pull the trigger though, is how much money I would have saved on my education process, if I would have had access to the information available, as downloads, through the EDC affilaite website. There is a LOT of stuff up there, that a whole lot of people sell as "stand alone" products, for a fair bit of money.

"ItISpossible" is either being less than forthcoming, or just couldn't be bothered, and I appreciate you pointing out, Brian, that he has encountered an unusually high percentage of "those grapes that were sour anyway".

I will also say this, too ...... and it is about the _________ ("opportunity" of your choice) program. No matter what high earners in any of these programs say.... if they made a lot of money, it's because they knew the one secret, that most folks DON'T understand. They WORKED HARD! Period!

Of those that WORKED HARD, and make big returns, many of them have an ethic about business, and business relationships, that is honorable, and of high integrity. Unfortunately, take any group of folks, and you run into a sociological numbers game. There will be a few bad apples, and those bad apples will hurt folks, who won't take it lying down, as they shouldn't.

No matter what "opportunity" you look at, please, look closely at the people who are providing YOU with the information.

Make certain, that they are going to accept your money, and STICK WITH YOU and show you how to do it.

If folks make a lot of money in ANY network business.... that's nice. But what does it mean? To me? I suppose that they can.

But if they can't or won't show ME how to replicate their results, honestly and with integrity, and also have the "heart of a teacher" in their lives, as well as their business, well, that sure wouldn't be an "opportunity", would it?

If you jump into something, because someone is making $1000+ (yup, a number of folks do), and you sign up because "you can do this in your skivvies, and it's not even work", then I submit, that you have issues, that no amount of money will fix.....

...you may make a lot of money, but you will also have a poverty, that nothing or no amount of money can fix.

There IS NO FREE LUNCH!

Warm regards,

dm

I am sorry I have no clue for sure if it is legitimate or not. But if I get something in my email that states I can make a ridiculous amount of money in a day I just hit delete. Maybe I will pass on a good oppurtunity that way but if it seems to good to be true than I am of the mind that it probably is.

Well, I have just emailed Dave from EDCGold to ask him why he considers it worth $200k a month to create bad blood and unhappiness... I am waiting for his reply...

Let's get somethings straight. EDC Gold takes work and marketing just like every business online or off. No one in EDC has ever pitched this as it does not take marketing effort.
Here's the problem. If someone says they are failing or writes me an emil saying they are struggling the first thing I ask them to do is send me a detailed breakdown of what they do daily.
You know what I see 10 out of 10 times? People are not working. They posted a few free ads and a few paid ones and expect an avalanche of cash to hit them in a week. What? That's ridiculous.
Then because they are doing a lot of free ads that aren't getting seen they are comparing effort thay are making to place them with results.
I here all the time I did a blaster to 50,000 people. But I didn't make a sale.
People automatically feel that those 50,000 people went and opened thier ad and they should of got some sales. They might of had 10 people open it not 50,000. People are thinking they are doing a lot when they are doing little.
They also don't really market and advertise and then give up way to soon.
I still have people that join me that we're on my site 4 months ago.
So quitting within a few weeks and saying edc doesn't work is ridiculous.
You have to market and you have to be consistent about it daily.
I advertise just as hard today as I did on my first day.
I've never been in a program that converts like edc gold. I've created almost every top earner in the company and get thank you emails daily from people that are earning great money thanks to edc. We have tons of training every week and encourage people to get trained.
Would you want to go into an operation and have the surgeon tell you this is my first operation if I like it I'll go back to school and get trained. Sounds scarey. But in the world of biz opp we have people jump in nevber want to be trained in marketing and then claim that the busines is a scam. Why don't you go ask all the people in any home business they claimed was a scam and ask them for marketing advice. Would you listen to them? No.
Because they jump in and don't want the advice or do the training.
Every person who told me they we're failing was implementing less than 10% of what I reccommended and wondered where the results were. Please.
If people are failing they are choosing to do so. If you truly treat this like a business and work it like one it works. There is no secret why I make the income I do with edc I work extremely hard. I market every single day. I follow up with people every single day.
People always like to blame an opportunity for their lack of work. I get tons of emails daily with marketing breakdowns that stink. If you market EDC it works period.
David Dubbs
#1 Earner in EDC Gold

This is Daves reply;

You get your info from forums. That's hilarious. It's funny all these people who say they lost money. I would challange anyone of them to send me a daily breakdown of thier marketing.
I can guarantee they posted a few ads or a ton of free ads. But most of them were to scared to invest like a business. They didn't post enough ads and really market. They didn't do what I show them how to do and they expected overnight success. Most of these people who didn't market enough and didn't invest in marketing tried a few ads and quit way too soon.
It's like that in any company. People expect to be a top earner over night but don't want to do do really what it takes. I bet if they were to send me thier ads and what they did daily it would be laughable. Then they blame me and edc for their failure calling it a scam.
Please.
The truth is they used mainly free ads and maybe spent a few bucks but quit way to soon. Most of these people didn't even follow up with prospects they got. I feel no remorse for people that don't work this like a business. I don't promote get rich quic or free lunches. I teach marketing and expect people to do it if they want my income. Edc converts like crazy but it's all #'s like anything and you need to get those #'s. The people on these boards didn't get the #'s because they were to afraid to really go out there and advertise. It makes me sicjk that they would sell themselve short and throw the towell in withoutr a real effort.
I own my own corporation and run edc through it with 4 partners. We treat this like a million dollar business because it is.
Again if any one of thoise complainers sent me what they we're doing I know it would be full of more holes than swiss cheese. So you can listen to them or a million dollar earner who works hard everyday. Edc works for those who work it. I created almost every edc top earner and have testimonials coming out my ears. These complainers are the same program jumpersthat complained about their last opportunity. What they need to do is quit spending joining a ton of programs and take all those start up fees and market one program if they did that they would have success. The failure is thier own fault by not marketing enough. Not mine and not Edc's. I make a ton of money because I market hard every single day. Period end of story.
Dave

EDCGold account is nothing but a fraud. They let you join for free, and the boom... all of a sudden you have to pay them 997 dollars and then you also have to suscribe to their so-called "auto-respondent" which obviously costs $$$$. EDCGold wants to victimize you(take $ from you) and then want you to re-earn your cash by referring other victims into their trap. I believe they should be shut down permanently.

BOTTOM LINE: YOU SHOULD NEVER PAY SOMEONE TO WORK FOR THEM. PERIOD.

Glad to hear you're happy with what you do.

Sorry you think it's weird to have a proper business model for earning money and developing wealth - instead of selling dreams to rainbow chasers.


There are real business models you can work with to develop real profits and earnings, without buying into schemes designed to scam people. Take a look at this thread for more information:
Seeking a solid scam free/completely LEGITIMATE way to make lots of $$$ on the NET


I spoke to two separate members of EDC Gold both of which stated how they made over 20k in their first month. I even went as far as speaking to Craig and Mark, the owners, who sounded very genuine and sincere.

And so you should be - as a bottom line, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Sorry, Mike, I'm not familiar with that program or your circumstances, but you could always file a complaint with the FTC or similar federal bodies if you believe you lost money due to fraudulent, deceptive, or illegal business practices.

Funny - what I read is pitched as easy money.

Also - I don't care if it takes work to sell EDC Gold - it took a lot of time and effort to sell timeshare scams in the 80's as well. That doesn't make timeshare scams a good business model to throw your cash into either - not unless you're at the top and can walk away with a pocketful of cash after while everyone else loses out.


Not a single EDC Gold member that I can find on Google is publically proclaiming the value of the products being resold. Every single conversation from EDC "mentors" revolves around easy cash.

If the "marketers" can't talk about the great value of what they're marketing, maybe what they're marketing isn't so great.

The whole EDCGold thing reminds me of those ads we used to see in the eigthies with some dude in a magazine saying "Send me $150 and I will show YOU how to get rich"...

Has the manager of EDCGold done ONE thing to help a child in need, or to relieve the misery of an aged person or help stop cruelty to animals ?
I don't give a rats HOW MUCH he is making - if he hasn't done at least ONE of these things with all his moola then he is not worth a pinch of sh** in my book.

Let him speak up if he has.

The thing is this; THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. In all cases it comes from the people who are the most inclined to part with it. Even if THEY manage to do something with what they have bought to make a profit, then AGAIN, some other poor sucker coughs up. And so it goes on...

I have been racking my brains trying to figure out how to reverse the trend and the ONLY company I have seen that is making SOME attempt to do something decent is MonaVie - the only problem with them is that the product is so damn expensive! It's GREAT but it COSTS!

When I was 17, I started my own business building guitar amps and selling them in the trading post. The parts cost was $80 and with about 8 hours dedicated labour, I sold them for $150. Happy work. Many customers.
$10 per hour back in 1975 was comfortable. Now it seems that if you can't make at least 1000% profit, you go broke.
Is it any wonder that there is no such thing as VALUE anymore ?

I worked for Jaycar Electronics recently. A typical item there was bought for $1 and sold for $9.95. And the company is laying off staff because it can't make enough money...this is ABSURD! It's a RUNAWAY situation... everybody is so desperate and pushed for cash that NOTHING means anything anymore...

What I DO KNOW is this:
1. We are all working harder than we have ever worked
2. We are all paying more and getting less than ever
3. The quality of living is plummetting downwards
4. Every day, there are more and more of us having greater problems

The whole concept of "GROWTH" is flawed. Were the worlds population to be 6 million people, we would have 1000th of the problems to deal with and that means ALL problems - because no matter what sort of difficulty we as a race encounter, it's severity is proportional to the number of people on the planet.

Forgive me - I am on a roll here...

Case in point:
The Australian government, in an effort to create more voters, awards $3000 per child to mothers as an incentive to have more kids. The result ? We have tens of thousands (if not more) young females who think this money is a fortune pumping out kids like rabbits and then blowing the money on dope, alcohol and the pokies. Meanwhile the kids are running around without clothes and the parents are lying on the lounge surrounded by pizza cartons and syringes hanging out of their arms. The government boasts a "budget surplus" on the media and no-one even seems to know that we have a near half a trillion dollar foreign deficit. Does the Prime Minister CARE ? - he doesn't even KNOW!!!!!!!! And no-one can tell him because he is insulated from reality by a circle of secretaries and advisors. Same thing with Bush.

Have a look at the Australian Parliament Question Time and you will see a circus the likes of which has no parallel. Two totally uncooperative halves of government hurling abuse at each other - and this "system" is supposed to help us ?!?!??!!

What a mess!
While all this going on, the US spends hundreds of billions on warfare and creating misery in the world and a handful of elite financial wizards scoop up all the profits from the efforts of everyone on the planet.

It's no wonder we don't get help from more advanced alien cultures - if ANY of them looked at what goes on here, they would write the whole human race off as a bad joke and just leave it to self-destruct.

SOOOO embarassing.... 2007 and we still haven't figured out how to get on with each other....

If I was running this planet, I would set up a system of world government that allowed EVERYONE to participate in its operation. This could be achieved with ONE website that collected data, suggestions, ideas and votes, processed them all and outputted the results to control the various government departments. I would do away with politicians altogether,
and tax the rich till their eyes watered. Same with large corporations.
Anyone with more money than they could prove they needed would have the excess money taken from them and reallocated to decent individuals and organisations that needed it to further promote happiness in the world.
AND I WOULD ENSURE THAT ANY COUPLE WANTING TO HAVE A BABY WOULD NEED A LICENSE AND APPROPRIATE TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE GOING TO BE GOOD PARENTS AND TEACH THEIR KIDS ABOUT OLD VALUES.

Boy wouldn't I clean up this place!

It could be done. Give me a handful of computer experts and I could set up such a system. And it would succeed by stealth... slowly but surely displacing the ridiculous system we have now. I would call it SNAP
- Seriously Non-Adversarial Politics.

Anyone wanna give me a hand ? email me mirrorlogic@bigpond.com
My name is Michael.
Thanks for your time.

Geez it's quiet in here all of sudden...

Was it something I said ?

By the way, if anyone involved with EDC Gold wishes to comment, you're welcome to - BUT please be aware link drops and email addresses in posts sets off the spam filter on the forum.