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Old 05-24-2007, 11:51 PM
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PA27 you know your comment on the pyramids in business is bang on. I recall this unique company in CA somewhere. I read this story about 10 years ago and it stuck in my head ever since. This businessman moved to the US from Korea. He was a software developer and ended up doing EXTREMELY well in the US. His company became very rich. He respected his employees and they respected him. So instead of squandering his money like a lot of huge corporations do, he made every single employee in his company right down to the mailroom clerk a millionaire! Do you think anyone left that company? Not a chance! I wish I had kept that article for my records. The spirit of that businessman, however, lives on in my memory so that I could share that story with you today.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:43 PM
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It's unfortunate that there aren't more businessmen and businesswomen like that. I think the worst part about jobs and working is that corporations don't even seem to respect the "little people who made it all possible." The regular employees are what bring success to a business. Without them, all the big-wigs would have to do the grunt work themselves (I'd love to see how successful some of these big corporations would be then....). Until there are more folks like that Korean businessman, I'm going to do what I can so that my family doesn't have to be trapped in the corporate world any more.

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Old 05-25-2007, 04:39 PM
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Amen to that. I worked for several large, public companies. You're just a number. I feel blessed that I'm able to make a full time living in EDC.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:41 AM
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Hi,

I'm just new on this forum, but I'd like to add some things..(most of it is already said, but anyway)

I recently started my own EDC-business...let me tell you why I am disappointed...

I'm NOT disappointed in EDC Gold...I'm diappointed in myself...

I thoroughly checked the list of e-books and software...and I found out i already purchased for over 600$...

If I had known, I would have started with EDC a lot earlier !


I respect all opinions, but I'd like to add this (I'm going to make it short)

1 there is money to be made online, everybody knows
2 How you do it, that's your choice !
3 Check out a program before you start with it...
4 Never hold on to 1 program (my thing : once 1 program starts to work out, I start another one...reduces the risks)
5 never invest more than you can afford to lose (most people forget)
6 no work = no money !

These are the general rules I apply ! and it works out...with EDC Gold and other programs...
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:36 PM
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Well, all I have to say is, welcome earnmore! It's always nice to meet another member. I'm sorry you're disappointed because you already owned the software and e-book training. That is one thing that I keep trying to tell folks. Yes, you can find the same products elsewhere online, but by the time you purchase them all (or many of them), you've spent way more than you would have purchasing from an EDC distributor.

At least for you, EDC updates our back office, so there is still ample opportunity for you to get other software and training programs that you don't yet own. And at least you have the opportunity to sell the software (and you're able to relate more because you've used much of it, even before being a member of EDC) and run a business with it (which is something you don't get just from purchasing the software or training alone).

All of the things that you said should really hit home for folks who are doing research. Yes, there is money to be made online (if everything was a scam, the entire internet would eventually die out...). And it is very important to research any program and know what you're getting for your money BEFORE you join, not afterwards.

Also, it is very important not to invest more than you can afford to lose. This is the reason I joined EDC at the mid level and not the highest one. I felt that $300 was a fair price for the software and training that was being offered. But also, if something went awry, $300 wouldn't cause me to be homeless or lose my car because I couldn't pay bills.

I'm working with 2 other EDC members right now (and just listening to that advice would have greatly helped them), one who has spent over $4000 to get his EDC business going, and the other woman has spent over $2500. This is insane to me! They are the kind of people (no offense) who were not in the best financial situation when they started, and now they are in debt up to their eyeballs, and the woman's husband is so mad at her for starting this business that she's caused a lot of tension at home. Neither of them could afford to invest as much as they did initially (and if they had joined at lower levels, would probably be a bit better off now). They have put more money into expensive lead programs and auto-responders and don't even know how to use them. They are both having to end up paying out more money to get back on the right track. Many people who get into this kind of situation are quick to get mad at the company and call it a scam, instead of looking at the problems they caused for themselves. Would I like to make a $1000 sale? Sure, but not at the expense of someone who is struggling when I know it will do them more harm than good. And not when it means trying to mentor someone who is hard-headed and stubborn and won't abide by the training, only to fail later and call it a scam.

They are also the kind of people who feel like throwing money at this business will help them make more sales. Instead of taking the time to learn about the program so that they could truly call themselves distributors, they jumped in and bought up everything they thought would help them get sales. And now they have folks calling off the hook, and full inboxes, and they don't even know how to respond to their leads and prospects. Now all of you who have been asking me about the advertising costs can see what I mean. These people are throwing hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars at advertising and haven't made any substantial sales. That shows that it's not what kind of advertising budget you have (or don't have), but how much work you put in and how serious you are about actually running your business. I make the kind of money that would allow me to have a much larger advertising budget. The reason I don't put more into paid advertising is because most of it isn't as effective as it claims to be, and because I would rather more of my income be profit instead of overhead. This month is a first for me. I've spent about $120 (I usually spend $50 max) on a few different advertising methods to see how effective they will be (one of which is a nationally syndicated press release that will be running in the major media outlets, like New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Entrepreneur Magazine and others). If they are, then I will probably continue to invest in them. If not, I'll move on. I'd rather spend $50 on my national press release than $500 on PPC or $600 on leads any day!

But yes, all that you said is true earnmore, and I'm glad to see that there are others who use common sense out here!

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Old 05-26-2007, 10:09 PM
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I just want to say thank you to those who are using this forum as a research tool, and to those who are putting into the discussion. I'm exciting to be answering so many questions. And of course, thanks to Brian for hosting this topic.

For those who are using this as research and have questions or concerns about EDC, feel free to contact me. The challenge is still on, and I'm still here to provide the facts and details. Just visit my profile for the link to my website, or send me a PM here. I'll get back with you shortly!

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Old 05-28-2007, 02:29 PM
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Oh by the way, did you get the PM I sent you Ray?

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I did get the PM. Sorry I took so long to respond

Nice to see that the topic about EDC and working from home continues.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:40 PM
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Hi,

I recently started my own EDC-business...let me tell you why I am disappointed...

I'm NOT disappointed in EDC Gold...I'm diappointed in myself...

I thoroughly checked the list of e-books and software...and I found out i already purchased for over 600$...

If I had known, I would have started with EDC a lot earlier !
Welcome to the forum earnmore. So beside the software issue, is EDC working out for you? Making money?

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Old 05-29-2007, 05:01 AM
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I don't know if any of you guys from EDCGold are interested in this, but I just found a way of getting my sponsored link shown on Google over 7000 times per hour. I have been putting up sponsored links for some months now and have only ever gotten maybe 50-70 displays every day. (I discovered this last month when I was in Japan setting up the Japanese distribution leg for MonaVie and I was getting 26,400 every 8 hours, then I put it aside for a while because I have been busy with other things and came back to it today and thought I would give it another run.)
Wouldn't such exposure help EDC ? I can guarantee #1 position with no competitors (at least for a short while! ;-)
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:05 AM
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I don't know if any of you guys from EDCGold are interested in this, but I just found a way of getting my sponsored link shown on Google over 7000 times per hour. I have been putting up sponsored links for some months now and have only ever gotten maybe 50-70 displays every day. (I discovered this last month when I was in Japan setting up the Japanese distribution leg for MonaVie and I was getting 26,400 every 8 hours, then I put it aside for a while because I have been busy with other things and came back to it today and thought I would give it another run.)
Wouldn't such exposure help EDC ? I can guarantee #1 position with no competitors (at least for a short while! ;-)
Hey there Michael! Consider me interested! If you would, please PM me with the details of this. I'm always on the lookout for ways to help my team stay above our competition. Oh yeah, and leave your website too so that I can check it out (I didn't know you were with MonaVie ).

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Old 05-31-2007, 06:23 PM
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Obviously you know nothing about Edc. We have a very valuable product called Promo Black Box ,that's exclusive only to Edc members.
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Well, I have to say that having been a top income earner and trainer in the direct sales industry, I can say with certainty that EDC Gold is 1 step away from a pyramid.

And watch out for their top earner. He is (on this very forms via Adsense) advertising to join him and competiting against his own system.

This kind of program is the exact kind of deviousness that causes problems in our industry.

First, you have to know something about this industry. There are a lot of sharks who can make money by promising the moon and simply not delivering.

Second, NEVER join a program where the product has no value. When I first saw EDC Gold, I was shocked to know that I ALREADY HAD every single product that they offered -- and this is all stuff that either sells other products OR was contracted out on Elance.com from some writer to create quickly.

But #1 - Never go for a company without a product. You're just in a money game and ripping poeople off if that's what you do.

#2 - Be very careful that whomever you work with has a REAL system and not just a sales pitch that says they do. I've gone out of my way personally to create added-value benefits for my whole team.

We even contracted out the top video guy in industry to create a video for our team.

It's a shame that people get ripped off by schemes like this, and it hurts the whole industry.

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Old 05-31-2007, 06:38 PM
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Obviously you know nothing about Edc. We have a very valuable product called Promo Black Box ,that's exclusive only to Edc members.

Sorry all, please bare with me as I become the insufferable know-it-all once more. I don't mean it to be rude at all, only to clear up any confusion.

Actually bbolden, PromoBlackBox isn't exclusive only to EDC members. It really doesn't focus on EDC members at all. It's a product that is made for businesses. It's composed of state-of-the-art marketing technology and tools and expert training designed to help drive tremendous traffic to a client's website, and to help convert that traffic into sales.

EDC distributors do get this product free, and do have the opportunity to sell it as well. It is exclusive in that EDC members are the only folks that this product can be purchased from, but it wasn't meant only for EDC members to use. I don't want others to get the wrong idea about what we're offering.

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Let's get somethings straight. EDC Gold takes work and marketing just like every business online or off. No one in EDC has ever pitched this as it does not take marketing effort.

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I have been trying for two weeks to get someone to just do one thing at your Dubbs Marketing site: and that is to cancel my subscription. I have already paid for EDC Gold and I will leave it at that. But there is no button on your site that I can find to unsubscribe nor is there an contact reply on your email reciept. When I called Craig to inquire about this; he called me "Stupid" because it was after 8:00 PM.
Would you like to post that I am stupid as well for trying to reply to your post, because I don't want your product anymore. I will make no statement about the EDC Opp. But My feelings about the Top guy at EDC are not good. You see you are prolly right that most don't work that hard at it. But make no mistake, about this one point. I am upset with his treatment of me concerning unsubscribing to your web-site, and I will work very very hard at getting that msg out if you can not resolve this issue. I would appreciate your attention in this matter

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Let's get somethings straight. EDC Gold takes work and marketing just like every business online or off. No one in EDC has ever pitched this as it does not take marketing effort.

David Dubbs
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To Mr D Dubbs

I have been trying for two weeks to get someone to just do one thing at your Dubbs Marketing site: and that is to cancel my subscription. I have already paid for EDC Gold and I will leave it at that. But there is no button on your site that I can find to unsubscribe nor is there an contact reply on your email reciept. When I called Craig to inquire about this; he called me "Stupid" because it was after 8:00 PM.
Would you like to post that I am stupid as well for trying to reply to your post, because I don't want your product anymore. I will make no statement about the EDC Opp. But My feelings about the Top guy at EDC are not good. You see you are prolly right that most don't work that hard at it. But make no mistake about this one point. I am upset with Craig's treatment of me concerning unsubscribing to your web-site, and I will work very very hard at getting that msg out if you can not resolve this issue. I would appreciate your attention in this matter

Thanks
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To Mr D Dubbs

I have been trying for two weeks to get someone to just do one thing at your Dubbs Marketing site: and that is to cancel my subscription. I have already paid for EDC Gold and I will leave it at that. But there is no button on your site that I can find to unsubscribe nor is there an contact reply on your email reciept. When I called Craig to inquire about this; he called me "Stupid" because it was after 8:00 PM.
Would you like to post that I am stupid as well for trying to reply to your post, because I don't want your product anymore. I will make no statement about the EDC Opp. But My feelings about the Top guy at EDC are not good. You see you are prolly right that most don't work that hard at it. But make no mistake about this one point. I am upset with Craig's treatment of me concerning unsubscribing to your web-site, and I will work very very hard at getting that msg out if you can not resolve this issue. I would appreciate your attention in this matter

Thanks

Here is what I think about edcgold. I personally think it is a scheme and ruins friendships. This company is fraud. It promises big hypes and delivers nothing. The e-books do not go on sale on ebay for what they say the resell rights should be.

I had to call 3times to cancel my edcgold membership.
This company has destroyed a friendship I had with my friend. He introduced me to edcgold and he hyped it up so much and promised he would help me get my money back after the 3sales. He said it is very easy and I fell for it. Now 2months later, neither has he made a sale and neither have I. I even bought edcgoldleads and lots of them were fake people! I finally realised that my friendship with this person was put on the line just for money and money neither of us are making! Now I'm 1000+down the drain and he is as well..and we're not friends like we use to be. Now he had to go get a job and basically EDCGOLD is a scheme. It says no refunds? It is a scheme because like quixtar they give you a 30day trial to get a refund..all companies have a refund...but not edcgold!!!!!!! This company has ruined my financial situation and my friendship that is not worth money. I personally contacted Peter Moore and he was an asshole and said "FORGET HIM...You work the program on your own!! Forget the loser!!" How rude is Peter to say forget a meaningful friendship for money. the edcgold leaders are all fake cold heartless people! I am now in total distress because what this company has done to my personal and financial life. WORD OF ADVICE!!!!!! STAY AWAY FROM EDCGOLD
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