I even tried a Google search for both Gregory Moore and Peter Moore in EDC Gold. Didn't find a thing related to EDC under either name. Definitely not top earners, sorry.

-PA27

Ok Brian,

Enough of EDCgold, now do you have the guts to show us your website of your successful business? Or are you just going to give us an excuse? You claim to be a very successful business guy and yet you still have the time to be critical of other business opps that you find to be scams. Be brave and show us your success!

I am have read almost every page of this forum... I also have a co-worker who purchased edc gold and who works hard to promote it.. after reading this forum I discussed what he thinks about the company and he agreed that if it was dog poop in foil he would actually still be promoting this product.

It is not about the product, it is about the re-sale. In fact, If you go to ebay right now and look up those exact "computer software products" that edc gold members sell, you will find the exact products for only $0.99 ??? Some for even $0.01 ??? Dont believe me? go check on EBAY.

So to PA ADVISOR, D DUBBS, CRAIG... Why is it that your 997$ "computer software products" are on CLEARANCE for only $0.99? If you truly cared about your customers wouldnt you direct them to the best deal?

I am willing to bet that d dubbs has not even read through the "computer software products" dont get me wrong. I have actually spoken to D dubbs and chris campbell (leading sales for edc gold) and they are very good at advertising and are great salesman. However, that does not mean that they aren't selling a scam. They know they are selling a scam, every edc gold member knows its a scam. But it is a scam that for the time being, is working. Not for long though, SCAM IN A HURRY EDC GOLD MEMBERS.

Also, why does it matter who brian works for, with ? He is simply providing facts and opinion as are the rest of the posts on this forum. So to the edc gold members who are so concerned about his background, you should be more concerned about how and why a website is selling your "PRODUCTS" for only $0.99 cents. If word gets around that your products are being sold for hundreds of dollars more than they are really worth than you guys might lose ALL your business! (that is if it was a real business) The fact that people can be the product elsewhere for hundreds of dollars less but continue to purchase it for hundreds more than its worth is proof that it is not about the "Computer Software products". It is about marketing and advertising a get rich quick scheme to someone who looks at chris campbell and d dubbs and says "if this guy can fool all these stupid people, then so can I ! " they buy in hopes of selling the product to someone who is thinking the same "if he can fool all those people, so can I " mantality. A PYRAMID.

EXACTLY THANK YOU!!!!!

Ok john,

It appears that you feel you are the expert on EDC. So lets lay some things out. I'm respectful of the opinions of others, but one thing I won't tolerate is being called a scam artist!

You say that the products we sell are on Ebay for .99. That is somewhat true, I have seen similar products myself. However, I'll be glad to share the difference in what we sell and what is found on Ebay, as I've been doing over and over on this thread.

First of all, we have more than a thousand products in our back office. So even if you were to go and purchase them on Ebay, you'd end up spending more than than the $997 of the highest level. Not to mention, just because someone chooses to price them as such on Ebay doesn't mean they aren't worth anything. Let's say someone is really into vintage video games. They would probably pay well above what some might charge because the video games are of great value to them. However, there may be another person with a large collection of these same games, who doesn't care much about them one way or another. So that person with the collection goes onto auction sites like Ebay and places the games up for sell. He sets them at a low price, more to get rid of them than to make money from them. Does that make the video games any less valuable to the game lover? Of course not. Something is not worthless just because another person isn't interested in it. After all, haven't you heard the saying, "One man's trash is another man's treasure?"

It's not just the software and tools you get when you join an EDC program. You also get the convenience of having those products updated frequently, and more products added regularly, and all at no extra charge. There is a search engine and directory submitter that I downloaded from the back office and am quite fond of. I'm glad to see whenever new search engines and directories are added to the database of the software. It means I don't have to go out and find new software to replace it. EDC members also receive live, interactive marketing training from marketing industry leaders 7 times a week. The training alone is well worth what I paid.

I remember saying this to Brian when he and I were going back and forth about EDC. A scam would be a situation where someone pays for something, but they either don't get what they expected, or don't get anything at all. That isn't the case with EDC. My customers and team members know exactly what to expect when they join EDC or purchase a product from me. There are no surprises. They know about the products and their uses, the prices, the monthly fees, the return policy, and they have a chance to have all of their questions answered before they make a decision. I sell actual products, products that I use everyday to help me with my website, and to help me create effective websites for others. I seriously doubt that my team members of the other EDC members I've been helping think that they're being scammed. In fact, most of them have expressed to me how happy they are with their purchases, and with the help and training I've given them. They aren't concerned with scamming other people. They are concerned with learning how to become better at marketing so that they can succeed at their other ventures. So to answer your question yes, if I truly cared about my customers I would direct them to the best deal. That is why I promote EDC. That's why there are now my team members.

As for your co-worker, I think it sad the way he chooses to promote his business. Actually, let me rephrase that. I don't consider what he's doing to be a business at all. But that's on him. Just because there are a few people who would try to make it a get-rich-quick scheme for themselves, doesn't mean it is, and it certainly doesn't mean the rest of us operate in that way.

I think the other fellow asked about Brian's ventures because just like you, Brian was a naysayer of our program. There was a point when Brian claimed that he couldn't sit by and allow us to scam people on such a forum as this, a place for people to get financial advice. However, when he was asked for recommendations in the place of EDC, he did not respond. It would have been helpful to many here for someone as influential on the forum as the administrator to give some financial suggestions and advice (especially since he claims to be very successful). After all, he claimed that this is what the forum was established for. But without a response to those who sought his help, it didn't seem as if Brian cared as much about the financial well-being of others as he tried to make us believe. This isn't a cut to him, as we have worked out our differences since then. But his ventures are, none the less, something that many are probably interested in. We are all visual people, and we like to see proof when claims are made. So it follows suite that we'd be interested in what he does for a living to be so successful. In Brian's defense however, I'm sure he'll share what he does with us when he is ready.

I feel it necessary to address some things that I keep seeing on this forum. As I've said, I'm the type of person who respects the opinions of others, as long as those people don't attempt to present their opinions as facts without proof to back them up. And I think that I've also said this, but we're all adults here. There's no need for the childish bickering and name-calling I keep seeing. If you disagree with the program, fine. But there's no need to try and discredit its members or attack them personally just because you don't agree with it. And the last thing is this: the program's naysayers keep coming in with the same arguments over and over. I feel like a broken record, explaining the same things that I know I've explained before. So if you've got something against the program, provide us with information that we haven't heard here before, so that we can address new issues. I'm sure that would be more helpful to those who are using this thread as research, instead of having to read about the same issues over and over (which have been resolved over and over, by the way). Sooner or later, those of us who are mature and looking to have intelligent discussion are just going to start ignoring the childish comments that don't bring anything positive to the thread.

Oh, and just so you know (because you attempted a direct shot at me, both on here and by PM), I don't promote the $997 membership. I've already stated the reasons for this, and I don't feel it necessary to repeat myself on that issue. If you'd really read through most of the thread as you claimed to, you'd have seen this. Before you try to make direct cuts, be sure that you have your facts straight.

-PA27

Hmmm...and I seem to remember you asking for advice just a few days ago. I also thought that you admitted to being childish about the way in which you chose to join EDC, and they you now understood that those people that you chose to follow blindly were not your friends at all.

As a distributor, I can't govern the actions of others. I can only ensure that I run my own business with integrity. I do this each day, and will continue.

It is obvious to me that certain people have no desire to grow and learn. I even offered to help you, to give you advice and answer your questions, just as I do with everyone (after you asked for it, mind you). Your problem is that you prefer to be a follower rather than a leader. You don't even try to think for yourself, you simply jump on whatever bandwagon is passing at each turn. With an attitude like that, you can't expect or hope to succeed at anything.

Do yourself a favor, and exercise your free will instead of following up behind others. Respect yourself enough to think for yourself. It will do you much more good in the end.

-PA27

I was childish in my relationship with my ex-friend. Not in the way I joined up for edcgold. That's what I admitted to. I did think that I'd also make more money signing up for gold. Gregory Moore is askpeterandgreg.edcgold.com that's there sign up link. There commissioned out of Las Vegas. Well, I am a leader, but my male friend was a jerk and the "men are always right" type of attitude. I am a leader, i successfully have my own ebay store and i make good money from it being a college student. Thank you very much, but this male friend used his insecure feelings on me to tear me down. It's very hard because at one point he really was someone I did love, i don't even know what he felt for me. But he was there for me during tough situations, so would you say that is a friend? But I guess people change.

I don't say the things I say to tear anyone down. I apologize if my comments offended you. I replied as I did because your feelings here seem to change with the wind. One minute you hate EDC, the next you're asking for suggestions and advice with it. And then as soon as you see someone else coming along to down the program, you're on the bandwagon with them. That's why I suggested you think for yourself. I know how love and relationships can be. I'm not judging you for what you did in your relationship. However, no one on earth should have that much of a pull on you except your family or someone really close to you.

Not to mention, you made some very harsh statements about certain people in this company. Though I try not to take sides, I don't believe that the actual leaders of the company had anything to do with what your ex-friend and these other guys did to you. And mind you, I still have no clue who Peter and Greg Moore are. They may be members, but they aren't any top earners that I've ever heard of.

It's wonderful that your ebay business is doing so well. But just because you didn't do well with EDC doesn't mean it's a scam. And just because some other person comes in claiming they know all there is to know about it (when they aren't even a member themselves) and that it has no value to them, doesn't make it a scam either. Folks throw that term around so loosely.

You and john think on this: all businesses sell products for more than they are actually worth. That's how they make a profit. Do you think that things like CD's and DVD's really cost as much as $15 or $20 each to make? Of course not. All of these "name brand" clothes that are priced in the hundreds and thousands...do you think they cost that much to make? Nope! If businesses never marked up prices, they'd never even get off the ground. They'd be better off just giving away stuff for free, but that's not why they're here. They're here to make money. Why then, are they not scams to you guys also? Or are you simply calling EDC a scam because you haven't been able to earn with it? Understand that EDC is a business, just like any other business. And it is set up so that it's distributors are able to earn profit, just as big corporations set themselves up to make as much profit as possible. That's not a scam, that's just business. Remember that the next time you down this or any other program. And remember that if you truly believe in what you're saying, then you paid way more than you should have for most of the things you own. You indulge in one "scam" or another everyday!

-PA27

I heard about Shay Patil is also top earners but I am not sure.
I am interested to learn and join EDC gold - at the moment I still
collect more info about that.

I Live in Australia and I never heard any succesfull australian in ECG Gold -only USA people. Also with a big different time,I think it's difficult to follow the trainning cals in USA.

Be wary, EDC gold is not a way to make money quickly.

Hi there NewbieLooking4Cash,

If you have questions or concerns about EDC, feel free to post them here and I'll be glad to address them. We have a schedule for the training calls which clearly lists the times for Australia (and there are also now 7 training calls a week), so once you become a member you'll receive that and hopefully it will be a bit easier for you to keep up with things. The nice thing about EDC (from a marketing and networking perspective) is that you can connect with folks from around the world. Your market does not have to be limited to your country.

So as I said, if you have concerns or are looking for more information, feel free to contact me by PM or post your questions here.

As for the one-liners being made by Mark A, it would be nice if you'd give some insight on your feelings about EDC. It seems as though you're opposed to it, yet you've not given any explanation as to why. EDC is not a get-rich-quick scheme, so in that sense, you won't become rich overnight. There are people succeeding with this program, however, and many are reporting that they started to see positive changes in their financial situations and lifestyles as early as 1 month in. So Mark A, I'm curious to know what it is you're urging folks to "be wary" of?

PA27

It seems to me that there are 2 groups of people involved with EDC, there is the group of people who know what they're doing, and they do a good job, make the money they want to make and have nothing but good stuff to say about the program. These people also say that it's a lot of work.

Then there is another group of people who invest in the program emotionally, can't afford to spend the required startup monies, have a hard time with it, allow it to come between friends, and ultimately, lose money.

I have nothing against EDC gold if the people who are doing it can afford it. It's when people are led to believe that it is a solution to their financial problems I get worried.

So, when I see a handle like NewbieLooking4Cash I am a bit concerned that someone will look to EDC Gold as a financial windfall / solution to all their problems.

If EDC Gold is the fabulous program that so many seem to say it is, then it will still be around for a long time putting out quality products and keeping good people employed. Part of my skepticism arises from the fact that it is being defended. An organization that is above board shouldn't have to defend itself.

Here’s a thought everyone. After reading everyone’s comments since my last post, I am seeing a pattern here..and that is ..the expression of individual and collective perception and the manipulation thereof.

I got a call from someone at EDC Gold and as a part-time shiatsu therapist, I am attuned to reading energy. One thing I noticed from his voice is that it was very high strung, like he drank 20 cups of coffee (and if you do that everyday you won’t live very long). Anyway, I would not budge. I know a desperate sales pitch when I hear it. I have always hated telling people what to do. My mother wanted me to be a teacher and I told her..I am a doer - big difference. Teachers love telling people what to do and instructing them. I don’t because I am creative and would rather journey that path of finding out myself through dialogue ..like what is happening here. I started this forum to gain knowledge about EDC Gold and the postings have been an eye opener.
Thank you all for making this a very successful thread. I have learned a lot and cherish ALL of your experiences. What else are we here for but to learn.