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Old 01-28-2008, 09:30 PM
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I have a friend that is a contractor and recently built a house in a coastal town near me, he built it to sell and now that the market has taken a bit of a hit he has asked me if I would be interested in buying it for practically what it cost to build. It is a beautiful house but the area is not the best in the town but is getting slowly cleaned up and there is an ocean view from the deck off the den. I am thinking this would be a great investment but was wondering if anyone could lend some advice. This would be the first investment purchase of this size for me and I am a little nervous, is this a no-brainer or am I right to be hesitant?
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Old 01-29-2008, 04:42 AM
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Real Estate is in a downward pattern right now. In the short term, someone is going to lose money on this property, you or him?
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Old 01-29-2008, 04:44 PM
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Think of it this way - would you have bought the house under any other normal circumstances?

If not, it's probably not for you.

One of the big adages of property is that it's easier to sell a bad property in a good area than a good property in a bad area.

And as Dru points out, we haven't even seen the bottom of the property market yet.

IMO, wait till it does bottom out, then ask yourself what house you would like to buy, in what area, and how much you can afford.

I think that's a far more important set of questions to ask when buying your first property, than "can I help a friend out by loading myself with the biggest debt I'll ever carry".

That's just my 2c though.
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:35 PM
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Hi Brian,

i think the biggest headache is to find out when is the bottom.

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And as Dru points out, we haven't even seen the bottom of the property market yet.

IMO, wait till it does bottom out, then ask yourself what house you would like to buy, in what area, and how much you can afford.
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:43 PM
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I believe the best time to buy is right before the market hits bottom. This way, the ball remains in the buyers court because if you try to buy when the market starts booming, the ball then goes over to the seller's court. The same goes for selling a house, which I believe is a little more difficult.

When trying to determine when the market might turn around, keep in touch with major amendments to the mortgage lending industry and pay close attention to the federal reserve. It is these items that have the most influence in borrowing power.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:49 AM
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according to me its a good deal for you if you buy that house , because first advantage for you. your friend is a contractor .i think he give you the best house in cheaper rates, and you said there is an ocean view near the deck of the den.i think its a beautiful view. you don't worry about the area . its a good deal for you. i think you should go for it.
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Old 05-26-2008, 07:13 PM
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The real estate market is still very inflated and I wouldn't buy a property right now, but if the price of the house is way below the current market prices for comparable properties in the area (30-40% below) then it might be worth having a look at the property.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:01 AM
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The real estate market is still very inflated and I wouldn't buy a property right now, but if the price of the house is way below the current market prices for comparable properties in the area (30-40% below) then it might be worth having a look at the property.
For an investment, the rule of thumb is 70% of FMV after repairs.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:04 AM
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Real estate is not a "good" investment in the sense that you are going to get a large profit for your investment - particularly if you are getting a loan for the property. By the time you pay interest on that loan you are usually lucky to get any return at all.

Now, if you have the CASH to buy the property then you might be in a whole new ballgame. Still - put that same cash in a high yield mutual fund and it is likely to way out produce any real estate on the market.
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:27 AM
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Real estate is not a "good" investment in the sense that you are going to get a large profit for your investment - particularly if you are getting a loan for the property. By the time you pay interest on that loan you are usually lucky to get any return at all.

Now, if you have the CASH to buy the property then you might be in a whole new ballgame. Still - put that same cash in a high yield mutual fund and it is likely to way out produce any real estate on the market.
That's debateable, it's very possible to make good money in real estate by leveraging, but it has it's risks. It all comes down to cash flow, the idea is to have more coming in than going out, then let appreciation work for you.

Paying cash, lessens the risk, but ties up a lot of money. It all depends on the property you buy and how you manage it.
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Old 05-27-2008, 03:30 PM
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I would say if you can afford the house, then do it. Yes, the housing market is depressed right now. Honestly, who knows exactly when the market will bottom out. It could be right now.

Just as investing in stocks goes, unless you know more than anyone else about when things will turn around or bottom, don't try to perfectly time the market.

What's better buying a home while it's still cheap, or buying when you've waited too long and prices have already gone up?
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:12 PM
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What's better buying a home while it's still cheap, or buying when you've waited too long and prices have already gone up?

Real estate is not cheap, and is actually severely overpriced. Calling real estate cheap when in many US locations prices now are still 60-70% over the prices in 2000, people have more debt that they can afford to carry, and economy is in recession is just plain wrong.
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Old 07-02-2008, 04:29 PM
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Yep I'd certainly be considering the investment were I in your shoes. If you think the house is cheap, or more to the point if you can afford it, then get it!
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I agree...I would think if you can afford it and the price is right...Go for it.
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:32 AM
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Take a look at what he is asking you to pay for the property, then take a look at what your income is, and then what percentage of your monthly income it will cost for you to make a monthly mortgage payment. Make sure its less than forty percent.

Then I would never invest in a property unless it could generate me a 10% profit if I had to rent it out (thats after you pay the mortgage and misc expenses). So if you notice rent for a similar property in your area is 10% or more than your monthly mortgage payments would be than I would say buy. If not, try to negotiate a deal with him. But this is a iffy situation, since he is a friend of yours. Good luck!

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