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Old 12-13-2007, 06:58 AM
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I agree that your personal home is not an asset. The majority will disagree as to many, especially to the middle-class, it is their biggest investment and plenty emotions are tied to their home. Emotions lower financial intelligence.

All I want to suggest is that when people look at their balance sheet not to put their home on the asset side and see if they will still come up with positive equity. You could consider your home as a bonus on top of that if you really want to qualify it as an asset.

Most people will see a deficit if they don't put their home on the asset side which is where plenty of financial problems come from.

Your home is intended for you to live in and that's it. It's not meant to be an ATM or anything else. Use it for the purpose it was intended.

To consider your personal home as an asset is the biggest illusion of wealth.
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:39 AM
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So you are basically saying to not buy a house until your assets are significant enough to be able to balance the debt? So until I have $300,000 in other assets I should not purchase a home for $300k? Preposterous!

Basically, you are saying that since the home is tied to emotions, its value is $0 (even though its intrinsic value is otherwise), and therefore your financial picture in the form of a balance sheet would look very bad with a $300k debt and a $0 asset. This is all even though my cash flow can more than handle the monthly mortgage payment of the debt.

To consider your personal home as an INVESTMENT, is wrong, and that I agree with. But to not consider it an asset is a bigger illusion. If this were true, it would always be better to rent a home than to own one. A mortgage on a personal residence can provide a significant tax break, and is some of the cheapest money you can borrow. You can secure equity with an equity line and use it for emergency purposes. Later on, you can consider a reverse mortgage, renting it out, or selling.

Secured debt is not the same as unsecured debt, and they are treated very differently. You are basically suggesting that a mortgage should be looked at as unsecured debt which is preposterous.

One of my clients retired in 2005 and had no 401k money, about $100k in bonds, and her home. She sold her home for $3 million through a trust, bought a small place near her grandchildren, and will have the income she needs for the rest of her life. So much for her personal residence not being an asset!
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Old 12-13-2007, 11:55 AM
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I never said not to buy a home until your balance sheet can handle it because you don't pay cash for your home but you should wait until cash-flow from your assets are in excess of what the monthly mortage will be.

Your balance sheet will look bad but eventually the balance sheet may improve.

If you have sufficent assets you would not need to take out and secure a credit with your home. All you do with a home equity line of credit is you take on more liabilites on something that you don't own in the first place and that is ridiculous.

You mentioned an example of where the home was converted into an asset but it only became an asset after you converted it. There are plenty of examples when that was not the case. I don't want to suggest that home-ownership is bad it is a very good thing but the approach of home-ownership which the majority chooses is bad.

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Old 12-30-2007, 09:35 PM
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This is like- fate! I started surfing the web days ago after I consulted with a debt counselor last week. I am a professional with a graduate degree and own my own home. I have excellent credit. I am divorced, no children. I got into the credit card rut because I am a social worker and simply do not make much money. (And obviously fell prey to having to own certain things, I admit.) I am about $30,000 in credit card debt and have been playing the card transfer game. I decided to see a debt counselor and after about 4 hours of brainstorming and tweaking, her advice was this: Keep my mortgage payments current, pay off my car with a credit card, continue to pay on two of the cards and keep them for ER's. And blow off the other 5 credit card companies. All they can do is harass you and ultimately, just lower your credit rating for 5-6 years. So, I'm getting that if I just have thick skin and can handle a few phone calls and strongly worded letters, not much will happen to me? Count me in!?
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:25 PM
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Not exactly true Minerva. They can take you to court, win a judgment against you, then garnish bank accounts and wages. If you own a home, they may even get a lien. In civil court, half the battle is getting the judgment, the other half is collecting it from you.
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Anyone has heard of this program? Is it a scam? I hear on the radio all the time and I'm terribly curious on how he does this.
I hear it a lot on the radio too. That's why I looked it up.

Let's put it this way: the few posts that tell how wonderful the program are from then-new posting members with one positive message. Where and whey did those new members come along?

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Old 02-03-2008, 07:56 PM
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Hey guys, new here. Found this post doing a search on how to return the TDIW program. From what I listened to of it, it is common sense covered in some B.S. to make it sound pretty. I finally got my RMA by stopping one of the overflow operators and telling her that every time I would be put "on hold" to get my RMA, that I would be hung up on.

DO NOT buy this program, you can find the same info online for free. You can even find it on David Ramseys website for free under "tips". The program works on the "snowball effect". Not worth paying $60/month for 5 months.
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:10 PM
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I have the tapes and have nearly worn them out. Yes, I can see why some may say that these are just common "cents" but I find it encouraging when I want to get a wiff of that consumer coke that I have something to remind me of where I want to be in 10, 15, 20 years from now. It's been a long hard road. We purchased the tapes back in 2003 I believe and at that time we had not even realized what a trap we were facing with the mounding debt. Then my husband lost his job and an assorted other things happened that put us in an even deeper in the hole. I thought we would never see the light of day. We probably would have lost everything including our new home if it hadn't been for the encouragement my husband and I got from listening to John Commuta he gave us a glimmer of hope. Yes, we also have listen to Dave but if we had spent all our time building up an emergency fund instead of getting to the root of the problem we would have been sunk. Currently we have paid approximately $80,000.00 off in credit card and other debt including 3 cars. Just a few more months left on the student loan and then to pay off the house in a couple of years. It's a wonderful feeling to finally get there. I never want to be in a debt situation like this ever again. It's also been a learning experience for our teenage son who owns the 3rd car - A 99 Honda completely debt free.
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Old 02-17-2008, 04:35 PM
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I have the tapes and have nearly worn them out. Yes, I can see why some may say that these are just common "cents" but I find it encouraging when I want to get a wiff of that consumer coke that I have something to remind me of where I want to be in 10, 15, 20 years from now. It's been a long hard road. We purchased the tapes back in 2003 I believe and at that time we had not even realized what a trap we were facing with the mounding debt. Then my husband lost his job and an assorted other things happened that put us in an even deeper in the hole. I thought we would never see the light of day. We probably would have lost everything including our new home if it hadn't been for the encouragement my husband and I got from listening to John Commuta he gave us a glimmer of hope. Yes, we also have listen to Dave but if we had spent all our time building up an emergency fund instead of getting to the root of the problem we would have been sunk. Currently we have paid approximately $80,000.00 off in credit card and other debt including 3 cars. Just a few more months left on the student loan and then to pay off the house in a couple of years. It's a wonderful feeling to finally get there. I never want to be in a debt situation like this ever again. It's also been a learning experience for our teenage son who owns the 3rd car - A 99 Honda completely debt free.
Congratulations, I'm glad it worked for you and you are back on track
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Old 03-11-2008, 07:14 PM
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John Commuta's book and cds offer the best debt reduction program I've ever heard about. That's because he puts the responsibility for your financial situation on YOU. He empowers you to take charge of your finances and KEEP your money rather than giving it away to creditors. More for YOU. None for them! Live on cash and have more of it. He is to be commended for teaching America how to be responsible. I am a psychotherapist, and I also recommend Larry Winget's You're Broke Because You Want To Be. Don't get me wrong. Bad things do happen to people, but it's possible to turn things around. I, too, need the advice of both of these experts. I got myself into a jam by attempting to supplement my income with real estate when health insurance essentially stopped paying decently for mental health services. I got stuck with 2 condos and have lost my life's savings, my home and my good credit. I need to start over and with their superb help, I will. Sincere thanks to both of them.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:08 PM
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Most of what Dave Ramsey has to say seems pretty good, especially working with people to get rid of high interest debt, but some of his advice is questionable.

A couple of nights ago I heard him telling someone to pay extra on their mortgage (for a couple of months until some other things came about) because "it is the easiest way to get a 6.5% return on your money". He failed to mention that the money would no longer be liquid if needed in the coming months. He also failed to mention that with deductible interest on a mortgage, taxes reduce the interest cost by several points. He also didn't mention that you can put it in an on-line bank at over 5% and still have it be 100% liquid. He also didn't point out that no matter how much, or how little equity is held, the appreciation amount earned will be the same.
Dave Ramsey's strategy is get rid of debt as soon as possible. Not play with lines of credits or play with points here or there. If you actually listen you would know he tells you to have an emergency fund. I have a fund of 10g that only took me about 1 year to build up. Ive followed hes plan now for about 2 years and its been the best thing we've done. I plan on being debt free by age 30. What you are saying may be true but it wont get you out of debt and truly build wealth. I guess thats the difference between a millionare and someone worried about credit and points.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:29 PM
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this Is A Scam....do Not Purchase Anything From This Company. They Are Rude And Are A Total Joke!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-15-2008, 06:49 PM
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Wow yah a income of 2400 and a mortgage of 2200, ouch man that is a house of pain if I ever heard of one. Downsize.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:10 AM
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SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!
DO NOT order their FREE cd that you hear about on the radio. They'll send you a whole box of the Transforming Debt into Wealth system. Then you only have 30 days to return or else they will charge you $500. I did not even open the product because I have not had time. I made an attempt to return the product after the "trial" period and they refuse to take it back. Their customer service associates are rude and not at all helpful. Now I'm stuck paying for a product that I do not want. I feel they should accept my return simply because I have not even opened the product. I say they are a scam and will make sure I post this in as many places on the web.
SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:42 AM
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This is not a scam at all. I bought the Commutta CDs. It is very similar to the Dave Ramsey system, using the same snowballing payment technique. The key is you have to be able to make all the minimum payments, and hopefully more. Commutta encourages you to scrape and save to be able to budget 10% of your monthly take home pay for debt reduction. You must commit to that amount until your debt is paid. If you put away the cards and stick to your commitment, this system will work. It is a mathematical certainty (as they say on sinking ships :-).

Commutta says most people will pay off credit card debt with this system in 2-3 years. This is consistent with what I'm finding in my debt reduction plan.

You might check out www-DueMinder-com, which has free on-line software letting you simulate payments following this system. You plug in your balances, and it shows you exactly how this works, month by month.
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