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Old 04-05-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Seperately managed accounts or mutual funds?

I posted this in a different forum as it started out as a general question. I'm trying to figure out which is the better route to take. A friend of mine, who is a former Schwab broker told me that Seperately managed accounts are not necessarily the right way to go. My friend thinks that I shoudl steer clear because the account managers will be actively trading, causing a significant tax on a yearly basis. However, the one benefit of this is if there's a loss, I can write that off to even it out a little. Since I'm in the 35% tax bracket, that might be a good thing. Although I'd rather be on teh upside. It's good only if the economy goes down.

She recommended seeing an independent investment adviser, like at Charles Schwab. She said that holding onto no load mutual funds would be cheaper in fees and cheaper in taxes (my broker would charge 2% on all assets with teh managed accounts). However, I read that mutual funds can still trigger taxes if there's a high turnover rate. I'm really unsure of which route to take. If I lost any money in mutual funds over the next year, I can't write it off. If I lost any in the managed account, I can because I'll own teh stock. Since I owe a lot in taxes for the next couple of years due to options sales, it's appealing. And it seems that a lot of advice out there is against sma's because theyr'e promoted heavily by broker/salesmen to make themselves money. ugggh.. anyone have experience in this area? the tax part is a huge factor for me right now.

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Old 04-11-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Seperately managed accounts or mutual funds?

The trouble with the question is that you really need to get an idea of your investing strategy first before you can answer it.

Certainly in some instances it makes a lot of sense to have multiple mutual funds under your belt, simply because it helps spread the risk and therefore minimise the risks while not losing out on the gains.

However, there are some pretty good mutual funds out there which are so diversified they have minimum risks anyway.

Something worth bearing in mind, though - the best performing mutual funds of 1, 5, and 10 years ago are rarely the best performing now - so long as what you're investing in keeps it's head in the top quadrille you're probably doing pretty well.

Also - you should definitely stay clear of funds which overtrade - they are basically doing this to earn fees rather than increase fund value. Definitely a warning activity to stay clear off if known about.

The tax situation really complicates the issue, though - really, you do need that independent advisor and clear idea of their interest in the products their promoting. As before, though, something simple like "investing for dummies" is a book that should help provide a basic but invaluable grounding into the investment world, without overwhelming you with complexities and technical jargon - and reading it should hopefully give you a better idea not simply of what sort of questions you actually need to ask, but also what sort of answers you think you should expect.

Hope that helps.
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: Seperately managed accounts or mutual funds?

thanks again Brian. When I have some time, I will definitely take a look at that book to help make a decision. I wish things were a lot more cut and dry but they never are.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: Seperately managed accounts or mutual funds?

No problem - I just hope you're able to get everything comfortably figured out soon.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Seperately managed accounts or mutual funds?

The primarily advantages to separately managed accounts over mutual funds are tax management and customization and service. Tax management would primarily apply to people in very high tax brackets while you would very often need in excess of $1,000,000 to reap the benefits of customization and personalized service. For the average investor, mutual funds are a better option.

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