Re: Where do you bank?
I recently switched personal banks from Fifth Third Bank to National City. We are still debating whether we pull our business accounts and move them over.
I've had a nightmarish experience with Fifth Third over the past year or so. They've increased their fees, and their management rarely ever overturn most of them.
My biggest complaints are these (and some apply to a lot of big banks):
1. Reverse Sort Ordering - This is where they sort your transactions to be processed so that the largest comes out first. While the argument of the bank seems to be "would you rather your mortgage go unpaid or your $20 gas payment, most consumers want their mortgage/car/big expenses paid first", the fact remains that I have NEVER been asked what my choice was. Furthermore, in today's world of ledger balances and pending transactions awaiting processing, it only serves to increase overdraft charges on those customers that are already financially strapped. I prefer things to be processed IN THE ORDER I PROCESSED THEM. That's how my checkbook is written, that's how it should be.
2. Overdraft Fees - While overdraft fees have grown tremendously high (I remember when it was *only* $9 per transaction at 5/3rd, now it's $33), it's not just the direct overdraft fees I'm concerned about. It's the way they compound very quickly, are reluctant to be overturned (because it is a source of profit for the banks now), and only make the problem worse, especially on those families that live paycheck-to-paycheck and cannot afford to absorb a mistake. If you argue about overdraft fees, they say, "Let's talk about overdraft protection." But overdraft protection is not what it says it is. So that's my next complaint.
3. Overdraft Protection - Not as simple as it seems. First off, you have the option of using a credit card to absorb any overdraft. The problem with this is that it is considered a "cash advance" by the credit card company, which means high interest charges and fees. Sometimes, each overdraft charge is considered a separate transaction and that can increase fees with some credit card companies. Second, you have the option to transfer funds from a savings account, which is how I have it set up. However, when that occurs I get charged $9 per transaction. This is far less than the $33 overdraft charge at 5/3rd, but ludicrous none the less. Keep in mind I can typically move money from my savings account to my checking account for absolutely FREE. So why the $9 fee to do something you typically give to me for free?
4. Customer Service - In an era of increased competition and competitive bottom lines, many big banks have focused on profitability over customer service. There are some exceptions, according to Consumer Reports, who recently recognized Bank of America, National City, and Wachovia as bright spots in a cloudy industry. If a manager is unwilling to see me eye-to-eye on the situation and work with me, then what's the point of having local branch service? Today you can bank online, transfer money online, direct deposit, and there is an ATM on every corner. Are banks seeing physical branches as an "overhead expense" to virtual profitability? What gives?
5. Identity Protection/Scams - The world today is frought with danger, and information moves freely and too easily to the wrong people. You would think that your local bank would support you in the area of identity fraud. But, as a few of my clients have found out, this is sadly not the truth. In fact, you are considered the criminal by the bank until you can change their minds. Unfortunately, in one case, the client had physical proof (a video from the ATM showing someone that is definitely not a 70-year old woman), and the bank would still not reverse the improper withdrawal, stating that she may have given this person her card. Because of this, her mortgage bounced, and she racked up over $670 in overdraft charges (yes, even her $5 breakfast meal from a day prior at McD's triggered a nice $35 overdraft charge). The bank refunded her one overdraft fee, $35! She has since closed everything with this bank but still owes them almost $400, and she's sent letters to the Attorney General, the Board of Directors of the bank, the Governor, and an entire list of others, to no avail.
After doing business with Fifth Third Bank for over 12 years, I've given up on them. They don't respect the fact I've been with them so long, so why should I continue to give them my business?
And to think that people are perfect and won't make mistakes is equally as ridiculous. One person I spoke with says, "don't bounce stuff and you won't get charged". With ACH withdrawals, credit cards, debit cards, personal checks, direct deposits, manual bank drafts, account transfers, etc. even with a sophisticated tracking system mistakes can and will happen. That doesn't mean that banks should structure their fees/rules in order to maximize profit from mistakes that do occur.
What banks *should* do is manage the relationship they have with their customers, and that relationship should give the management full discretion on how to handle each individual situation, taking into account all factors, with the power to overturn any fees they so choose, without financial or any ramifications from bank directors, vp's, etc.
Last edited by Mynion; 12-17-2007 at 12:40 PM.
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